Kampilan sundi symbolism

[JeffS]

I recently found an Ebay sleeper kampilan so I finally have a nice old one for my collection. It will be awhile before I get my hands on it in Singapore, but of course I already want to learn everything I can about it. Lots of good reading on the forum (dont forget to use Wayback Machine for pre-crash threads). I feel like I recall discussion, but haven't found it, about the symbolism of the sundi (spikelet). Cato notes that some sources believe it is symbolic of the hornbill while others say it is combat feature. Could be a bit of both... The crescent with the two small round bits has been a common feature for a long long time on these blades. The two bumps seem very specific and the crescent, of course, has deep Islamic meaning. With the horizontal orientation the sundi also looks a bit like a boat with two heads poking up.... I can also sort of see the hornbill feature, but again why the two bumps? Perhaps, like the kaudi on khukuri, the meaning has been lost over time. However, there is a lot more variability in sundi styles and thus flexibility - how is it that the distinct feature of the two bumps, which is presumably a bit of a hassle to include, keeps on keeping on without a well known meaning or purpose?

[JeffS]

This post didn't catch any takers but figure I should show the sword now that I've received it and had time to clean it up some. I also have a question.

Here is the sundi I was asking about earlier. Note the inset circle below that was revealed by the etch. First I've seen with steel as these inserts are typically brass when they occur. This one would be invisible if not for the etching. Also note the wave pattern and contrast of the etched steel - the sundi looks like a boat on rough water...

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Full sword
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And question. What was likely using the second set of holes on the handle shown here? I'm
thinking a second piece of iron but worked with the series of vertical bends we commonly see on kampilan.
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Also the complete hilt, note the brass pins that surround the pommel.

[Rick]

I think the holes were probably for another iron staple. :)

[Interested Party]

Beautiful. The crescent and bumps really do look like a ship on the wine dark seas. Sorry I don't know enough to help.

[Ian]

Hi Jeff,

Very nice kampilan and the etching shows a handsome blade. I agree with Rick that there was probably another staple guard in the holes that are now empty. As far as what the sundi may represent, we may never know because a lot of Moro symbolism is not explained to outsiders. The information is kept close to the culture.

[Sajen]

Nice kampy and good restore job! :cool:

[JeffS]

I agree with Rick that there was probably another staple guard in the holes that are now empty.
Have you seen one with a double staple before? I'm tempted to replace the missing one but not sure what would be correct in terms of design.

[Rick]

Yes, I have one in my collection. The staples (for want of a better word) are made of brass rather than iron or steel. One of them is a cast piece and the other one is a simple hand formed brass staple. I have seen other Kamps with two guards but I haven't seen another like mine with a cast guard, nor have I seen another example with brass rather than iron guards.
The unusual handle is Banati wood and the cross guard is very hard dark Teak.