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Flavio
18th July 2006, 11:57 AM
Ah, here come back my first love!! AFRICA!!! :D Pics from seller a nice ethiopian shield, diameter 50 cm. Comments are welcome.

CharlesS
18th July 2006, 12:14 PM
Gorgeeeeez piece! Which Ethiopian ethnic group does this come from??

Flavio
18th July 2006, 12:35 PM
Thank you Charles, unfortunatly i can't be more precise, but hope someone here will do :)

Lew
18th July 2006, 03:26 PM
Flavio

Nice to see you went back to your first love ;) A lovely shield beautiful patina.


Lew

Flavio
18th July 2006, 03:29 PM
Thank you Lew,

i hope to have this one very soon!!!

Tim Simmons
18th July 2006, 04:25 PM
Just the ticket :cool: .

Tim Simmons
18th July 2006, 07:56 PM
On this marvelous shield we can see that the designs have clearly been applied freehand with no use of mechanical rotation or spinning. Also it looks like the hand tools has not included rollers.

Flavio
18th July 2006, 08:02 PM
Thank you Tim :)

Luc LEFEBVRE
18th July 2006, 08:45 PM
Very nice design of the patterns on this this shield.
Nice one Flavio.
Luc

Flavio
18th July 2006, 08:58 PM
Thanks a lot Luc :)

katana
18th July 2006, 10:12 PM
What a fantastic shield.....it just oozes quality

roanoa
23rd July 2006, 03:09 AM
My best guess is that the shield is AFAR/DANAKIL from the ISSA tribe. So you are most likely narrowing down its origin to the former French Somalia. Probably Gibuti. Very nice piece.

Flavio
23rd July 2006, 06:55 AM
Thank you very much Roa :) So maybe is better to display this shield more with a kaskara than with a gurade or a shotel? Regards

Flavio

Titus Pullo
23rd July 2006, 07:06 AM
You have a nice piece there! Gorgeous!

Flavio
23rd July 2006, 07:20 AM
Ave Titus! Thank you very much :)

roanoa
23rd July 2006, 04:34 PM
Flavio, I would say that the shield should be displayed with a GILE. I do not believe Kaskaras were used that far South along the Red Sea coast.

roanoa
23rd July 2006, 05:16 PM
Flavio. I found this picture in the AFRICAN SHIELDS by ZIRNGIBL. Guess it will help. Ciao, Roano

Tim Simmons
23rd July 2006, 05:20 PM
I was just going to add that a spear is most likely carried. I also think if you had one of those German light cavalry swords made for Abyssinia would be okay to put with it.

Flavio
24th July 2006, 02:05 AM
Ciao Roano :) , thank you very much. The shield that you show is very similar, thanks a lot.

Tim, maybe your somali shield on swap forum is better with a kaskara? :)

roanoa
24th July 2006, 03:29 AM
Hi Tim. I do not agree with your suggestion. All the pictures I have seen of Afar/Danakil warriors show them carrying (aside from rifles...) shield, spear and gile. No swords. Unless one considers the gile a short sword. Cheers, RON

Tim Simmons
24th July 2006, 07:16 AM
You are quite right about the Gile. I am not brave enough to say this form of shield would not have been used over a wide area including Abyssinian warriors for whom many swords were made. A big Gile or an Abyssinian Shotel or trade sword all would look fabulous with the shield. :cool:

roanoa
24th July 2006, 06:22 PM
Hi Tim. I agree. The shield may have found its way into the hands of an "abyssinian" warrior. One thing about the Afar/Danakil though: they are SO TRADITIONAL that I doubt they would be using anything but their gile. I have seen recent pictures of these tribesmen carrying AK47 AND the gile. And, by the way, taking a closer look at the picture of the Issa warrior that I submitted, I noticed that he is in fact wearing a gile. You can see it with the handle sitting on the guy's lap and the scabbard's tip brass decoration pointing upward. Cool.

Flavio
24th July 2006, 06:39 PM
Hello Roano, could you post a higher resolution picture of the issa warrior? Thank you :)

roanoa
25th July 2006, 01:12 AM
Hi Flavio. I am afraid this is the highest I can go. However, if you so wish,
e-mail me at ROANOA@SHAW.CA and I'll send it to you. It's a BIG file.... Roano

Flavio
25th July 2006, 06:58 PM
Hello Roano, you have an email. :)

Flavio
28th July 2006, 10:42 PM
Ciao Roano, have you received my mails? Regards

Flavio