The earliest Swiss type daggers ?

[Villerica]

When do the earliest Swiss type daggers appear ?

[fernando]

See HERE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_dagger):

[corrado26]

or see here:

[corrado26]

and a Swiss or burgundy dagger ca. 1350 with restored hilt of my collection

[Villerica]

Thanks !

In fact what I'm really looking for are depictions on Effigies or Barsses dating from the 14th and 15th centuries that show this form of grip with the pommel and garde turned inwards . Original sources.

[fernando]

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[Villerica]

Sorry I forgot to attach the photos.

Is it possible to modify one's posts ?

[fernando]

Did you check the Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_dagger) link in my post 2# ?


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[Villerica]

Yes I did see that example thanks . In fact I am looking for earlier examples (14th and 15th centuries) of this dagger that are illustrated on tomb stones of Knights . I am sure that I have seen them somewhere on the web.

[fernando]

Do you mean BASELARDS; like in here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baselard) ... or many pictures shown here. (http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=345547)

[cornelistromp]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15455

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[Villerica]

Thank you Cornelistromp ! That is exactly what I am looking for !