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francantolin
7th April 2022, 07:16 PM
Hello dear members,

I have this kindjal to show you and ask about origin,

it is a mix of what seems ''average'' recent work with some fine silver wires ans details.

the blade seems good with maker's stamp and what it seems double etched fullers ( I don't think the blade is real damas but...)

I saw models like this one time ago with the long and large rivets but I can't find them anymore,

with the double fullers, I will say a russian model ?
but in the maker's stamp there is a signature in arabic,
so more caucasian ?

last question about the nielled mounts : hesitate between silver ( low grade ) or made of brass

Glad if someone can give me informations or the link for these models

Kind regards

werecow
8th April 2022, 06:53 PM
Those are some huge knobs on your qama/kindjal! }|:oP

I'm no expert but I've seen that stamp before on quadarra and qama typically identified as Persian or occasionally as from the Caucasus, such as the one attached (not mine).

werecow
8th April 2022, 07:15 PM
Actually, looking at it again, that's a terrible example. Those stamps look nothing alike. This one, listed as Russian, is perhaps a little closer. It has similarly larger-than-usual decorated rivets and double fullers with scrolling decorations.

francantolin
9th April 2022, 08:45 PM
Hello and Thank's a lot Werecow for your comments,

Really nice quaddara ! sadly not yours ( neither mine :) )

what is uncommon in this kindjal are as you said these large knobs/rivets,
2cm/ 0,8 inches high
and a particularly thin but long blade : 3cm/1,2 inches at larger part of the blade
and scabbard with this huge final ball, 2,3cm/0,9 inches diameter

complex of the owner ?:D

more seriously, a caucasian habit ? from a close geographic area or fashioned sytyle in a period ( glad if we can defin-fix it when !)

Kind regards

corrado26
10th April 2022, 08:06 AM
Here a foto of a Kama-dagger made in Dagestan. I think it is very similar to the piece in question.

werecow
16th April 2022, 10:28 PM
Hello and Thank's a lot Werecow for your comments,

Really nice quaddara ! sadly not yours ( neither mine :) )


Indeed. For now I'll have to make do with my kindjal (of the Caucasian variety; excuse the poor picture quality, my phone's camera is not great, especially in low light).
Oh and definitely take everything I say with a huge grain of salt, as I've only been collecting for a couple of years and my knowledge is still pretty limited.