gouged sword, attribution request

[Elmereya]

Good afternoon, please see another sword, a little over 90 cm long,
I could not find an analogue on the Internet,
please help with attribution by time and possible place of manufacture,
it is possible indirectly italy,?
grateful for the help.
with respect ,,,

[Elmereya]

there is a similarity with these blades, (the photo is taken here from previous topics), the spread in time, of course, but ... please help with the attribution of the sword.
with respect .

[Elmereya]

in addition to the previous photos ,,

found old photos, still the previous owner, they, it seems to me, better convey the essence of the subject,. my photos taken on the phone are not very good of course.
with respect...

[fernando]

Nothing to say on ths one, guys ?. C'mon !

[Raf]

Nothing to say on ths one, guys ?. C'mon !

Says it all doesn't it ?

[fernando]

Dear Raf, would you kindly put your ? in words ?. Some of us (me, for one) need to be enlightened all the way :o .

[Raf]

Dear Raf, would you kindly put your ? in words ?. Some of us (me, for one) need to be enlightened all the way :o .

Just wondered why the chunk of blade missing in the first images posted wasn't missing in the second set of images posted. Look carefully and make up your own mind.

[fernando]

As if the blade underwent a rough cleaning session and the previous dent/s has/have augmented to a larger portion; maybe even with the owner's help.
Would this be a plausible inference Raf ?

[Elmereya]

good day ,
I got the sword in the same form as in the last photos on a red background,
the previous owner simply repaired the large potholes with a "cold weld" trowel. I do not like such restoration, I like to perceive the object as it is, I removed all the finishing touches; potholes do not spoil it in my opinion.
with respect

[fernando]

cross posts ... and some close explanation.

[Elmereya]

for example, the reverse side is where this cold welding is

[Elmereya]

This place

[Raf]

Thank you for your explanation.

[fernando]

What a terrible wound.

[Elmereya]

yes, the wound is serious, and I am glad that I removed the putty, there was a loose substance under it, but in the core it was about 5 mm thick at the site of the cleavage and therefore the sword is strong and still serious

[fernando]

Good thing, Andrey :cool: .

[Elmereya]

Fernando thank you for your help and support,

the subject is rather difficult to determine, of course, I conducted some research according to the circumstances and place of its discovery, with a high probability, it may have been lost in the winter of 1456 (due to events at the place of its discovery) .. but I wanted to clarify;
the blade seems to be a type XIII according to Oakeshott,
garda style 5,
pommel type VI.
(Is Oakeshott possible Italian?)
is the subject as a whole likely to be attributed to the late 14th and early 15th centuries?
with respect

[Elmereya]

Thank you Raf for your question, thanks to him I showed more details,
with respect..

[Dmitry]

This sword doesn't look like an honest period piece to me.

[Elmereya]

This sword doesn't look like an honest period piece to me.


Good afternoon, could you please clarify what exactly you mean?
with respect .

[thomas hauschild]

I miss any „lines“ in the steel/corrosion due to a laminated steel.

Best Thomas

[Elmereya]

good day .
I agree with you, besides, I do not always manage to make high-quality photos on my phone, I took it this morning.
the overall structure of the sword as in these photos,
with respect