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bobi13
17th August 2020, 02:08 PM
I want to show you my restoration on Bulgarian rifle boyliya. From the type which was shared here, I make the same type of it. I expect your comments.
Ian
18th August 2020, 10:18 AM
Welcome to the Forum bobi13! Thanks for posting your interesting gun with its nice restoration.
corrado26
18th August 2020, 11:16 AM
It is impossible to comment without knowing what or which parts of the gun have been restored
bobi13
18th August 2020, 04:34 PM
It is impossible to comment without knowing what or which parts of the gun have been restored
The barrel and the lock are original. All others parts are not original. I made them.
Sajen
18th August 2020, 07:24 PM
Yes, some pictures before restoration would be very helpful! ;)
Tim Simmons
19th August 2020, 09:38 AM
A lot of time and work. Most impressive.
Ian
19th August 2020, 09:53 AM
bobi13,
How did you come up with the date of 1231 Hijri (1816 Gregorian)?
Ian
bobi13
19th August 2020, 01:59 PM
I made restoration the rifle 2019 year, but these rifles are did mading 18-19 century. Тherefore i em made this year.
rickystl
19th August 2020, 02:48 PM
Hello bobi13. Welcome to the Forum.
That is a wonderful looking Boyliya. It's the one style I don't have in my collection.
If the only original pieces are the lock, barrel, and it appears the trigger, you have done an incredible job duplicating the wood stock profile and metal fittings. The barrel bands, other brass/pearl decoration look very well done, and in the traditional manner. And the lock looks like it cleaned up perfectly. Looks like all you need is a iron ramrod.
A question: Where did you locate the small, round, brass starburst inserts ? I have been trying to locate those for years.
As mentioned above, if you have any photos of the gun before restoration, please post them. As well, some additional details of the restoration.
Again, congratulations on a wonderful restoration.
Rick
Sajen
19th August 2020, 04:42 PM
Wow, congrats, you can be proud of your work! :cool:
But sorry, I wouldn't call it restoration, it's a new one with partly antique pieces. :shrug:
Regards,
Detlef
TVV
19th August 2020, 06:01 PM
A question: Where did you locate the small, round, brass starburst inserts ? I have been trying to locate those for years.
There are people in Bulgaria (and elsewhere I am sure), who make tubes of horn and brass rods inside and then cut them into small rounds, which are then ready to be inserted. Perhaps if you contact bobi13 privately, he might be able to help you source some.
Teodor
Edster
19th August 2020, 09:03 PM
They may be called knife handle Mosaic Pins or nails on your search engine. Lots of different designs available.
Battara
20th August 2020, 01:54 AM
I am impressed! Great work!
I will have to agree with Sajen though on the new piece with antique parts. If most of were antique then that would be different.
Still great work!
sfenoid13
20th August 2020, 03:15 AM
Do you also happen to make Yatagans as well? It might be you that I know from FB. and you made some amazing looking Yatagan! You are from Bulgaria correct?
bobi13
20th August 2020, 11:33 AM
Hello bobi13. Welcome to the Forum.
That is a wonderful looking Boyliya. It's the one style I don't have in my collection.
If the only original pieces are the lock, barrel, and it appears the trigger, you have done an incredible job duplicating the wood stock profile and metal fittings. The barrel bands, other brass/pearl decoration look very well done, and in the traditional manner. And the lock looks like it cleaned up perfectly. Looks like all you need is a iron ramrod.
A question: Where did you locate the small, round, brass starburst inserts ? I have been trying to locate those for years.
As mentioned above, if you have any photos of the gun before restoration, please post them. As well, some additional details of the restoration.
Again, congratulations on a wonderful restoration.
Rick
I have only these pictures from restoration. Small round, brass starburst inserts we say in Bulgarian "rozetki" (розетки), I made them it.
bobi13
20th August 2020, 11:41 AM
Here is Photos them "rozetki"
bobi13
20th August 2020, 11:56 AM
Do you also happen to make Yatagans as well? It might be you that I know from FB. and you made some amazing looking Yatagan! You are from Bulgaria correct?
I am Borislav Uzunov, I am from Bulgaria and live in city Troyan. I restoration and yatagans, I shall show tomorrow photos.
rickystl
20th August 2020, 04:21 PM
Thank you Teodor and Edster !!! I search with the term mosaic pins and found just what I was looking for. :o I should have used that term a long time ago.
Just shows one the value of this Forum.
Thank you again. Rick
Philip
21st August 2020, 05:36 AM
I am Borislav Uzunov, I am from Bulgaria and live in city Troyan. I restoration and yatagans, I shall show tomorrow photos.
Borislav, you do excellent work. The precision of the craftsmanship and the fidelity to traditional forms and styles is commendable. By and large, the quality of the work is better than what I've seen on many wholly-antique boyliyas. Do share your pics of yataghans on another thread, we'd love to see them!
If the barrel is in sufficient and safe condition, do you plan on shooting this gun? With a brand-new stock, you don't have to worry about recoil causing strain on old wood, or dislodging loose inlays!
grendolino
25th August 2020, 10:19 PM
The reconstruction is stunning. Discussion about limit of such could be long but pointless. One could easily mention contemporary Monte Cassino or some 1000 year Old japanese temples...
Well, it is ethnographic arms forum, so for me it is good news to see old (ethno)skill of ottoman linked kathamkali/sadeli work had not vanish. I suppose some ancient Guns and yathagans could benefit
If those pins would be available on market. Myself had looked for any data about them for pretty long time and in vain.
How do you make those pins? Brass and tar? Wood? Epoxy?
bobi13
26th August 2020, 02:23 PM
I made those pins from bronze and buffalo horn.
grendolino
27th August 2020, 12:02 PM
Can i have some technical questions? And maeby not to bother the other forumites, on personal mail?
Mine is grendolino@wp.pl.
Thanks
cyten
28th August 2020, 05:21 PM
Excellent work, fantastic craftsmanship, Borislav!
bobi13
17th March 2021, 07:55 AM
I want to show you another of my restorations on a Bulgarian boyliye rifle.
bobi13
17th March 2021, 08:04 AM
More photos before restoration.
bobi13
17th March 2021, 08:09 AM
Here is photos after restoration.
bobi13
17th March 2021, 08:14 AM
More photos after restoration.I hope you like my work.
Sajen
17th March 2021, 05:21 PM
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:
Oliver Pinchot
18th March 2021, 07:53 AM
Ти си майстор, Борислав.
eftihis
18th March 2021, 01:13 PM
Great work, thanks for showing!
qusko
18th March 2021, 04:55 PM
More photos after restoration.I hope you like my work.
Borislav - it's excellent work ! The rifle looks great !
I was doing some small restorations as well and knows how much effort it costs.
By any chance can you share what do you use to make red ornaments on mother of pearl ?
Tim Simmons
18th March 2021, 08:57 PM
Wonderful!! Work with mother of pearl is not the easiest thing on the hands and time consuming.
rickystl
19th March 2021, 04:52 PM
Outstanding job. Congratulations !! Are you able to shoot black powder, muzzle loading guns in Bulgaria ?
Rick
bobi13
23rd March 2021, 12:57 PM
Borislav - it's excellent work ! The rifle looks great !
I was doing some small restorations as well and knows how much effort it costs.
By any chance can you share what do you use to make red ornaments on mother of pearl ?
Hi gusko, i use red wax from wine for inlay on mother of pearl.
bobi13
23rd March 2021, 01:13 PM
Outstanding job. Congratulations !! Are you able to shoot black powder, muzzle loading guns in Bulgaria ?
Rick
Here I em, shooting whit my boylia at the traditional Bulgarian festival city
Zheravna (с. Жеравна).
rickystl
29th March 2021, 02:32 PM
Excellent !!!! Thanks so much for the photos !!! I'm need to post photos of myself firing some of my original Eastern guns. Thanks again. Outstanding work also.
Rick
bobi13
4th April 2023, 01:39 PM
I want to show you my last restoration of a Bulgarian boylia rifle. I look forward to your comments. The barrel and the lock are original. All others parts are not original. I made them.
bobi13
4th April 2023, 01:41 PM
More images
Ian
6th April 2023, 08:26 PM
Lovely work bobi! That must have taken you many hours to complete.
Battara
8th April 2023, 06:24 AM
Impressivo!
AHite
9th April 2023, 01:21 PM
Your work is very inspiring! I collect ethnic guns as well as vintage American long rifles, and most of mine are well worn. A couple of my long guns suffered from poor amateur restoration attempts. To see a relic like what you started with get restored to its former glory is a testament to your skills.
Andrew
Felix the Cat
28th May 2023, 04:41 PM
Ah! At last I found this thread..
I have a Boylia that was given to me in a terrible state. I have started to restore it, but had no idea what I was trying to achive..
The rear of the stock is missing as are the forward barrel bands..
I have managed to scrape off some of the thick coats of dirt and clean the lock which is in quite good condition, but is missing the wings on the top screw..
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