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ALEX
8th March 2019, 04:08 PM
Here is Central Asian ewer with inscribed handle. I can read the year 1332/1913. Hope our Arabic speaking colleagues will be able to translate the rest.
Thanks in advance.

kahnjar1
8th March 2019, 07:55 PM
Sorry I can't help with translation but I would just like to say what a nice ewer you have there.
Here is a Persian?? ewer I have in my collection. Probably not as old as yours......
Stu

Ibrahiim al Balooshi
28th October 2019, 12:18 PM
Is it Persian? it seems to say ''sirdah adeen kuljeen '' is that the name of the maker ?

Athanase
29th October 2019, 04:24 PM
Sorry, mishandling.

kwiatek
23rd November 2019, 10:50 AM
Here is Central Asian ewer with inscribed handle. I can read the year 1332/1913. Hope our Arabic speaking colleagues will be able to translate the rest.
Thanks in advance.

It’s dated 1332 (1913-14) and has the owner’s name

صدر(؟) الدين خواجه نيا

“Sadr(?) al-Din Khwaja Niya”

ALEX
27th November 2019, 03:16 PM
Kwiatek,
Thank you very much for translation! It is very helpful.
May I ask for another favor to translate the below inscription on another ewer below? They're usually dated but I do not see any numbers.
Also, may you look HERE (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24756&highlight=arabic+script) if possible to translate.
Thanks again for your help!

Ibrahiim,
I do not think the ewer is Persian. It is typical of Uzbekistan.

Stu,
Yours looks more from Afghanistan or Pakistan based on engravings and motif.

kwiatek
27th November 2019, 09:30 PM
Well, it's definitely Central Asian

The top inscription which looks older is

صاحبه یولجه بیگ

"It's owner, Yulja Beg."

The next inscription, which looks later, starts ok, but the ending is odd. I can't even really see if what is at the very end is meant to be numbers of letters.

... (صاحبه محمد خد بک (؟

"It's owner, Muhammad Khad(?) Bak (i.e. Beg?) ..."

Ibrahiim al Balooshi
28th November 2019, 01:45 PM
Please see https://www.michaelbackmanltd.com/archived_objects/islamic-bukharan-tea-pots-or-ewers/ :shrug:

ALEX
29th November 2019, 01:21 PM
Kwiatek,
Many thanks once again for translation. Its interesting to see one inscription looks older, most likely indicating several different owners during its lifetime. Below is another example from another ewer's handle. It shows 2 inscriptions with different dates. Can you read them?

Ibrahiim,
Thanks for the reference. These ewers are distinctively Central Asian with typical design and elements. Still, each with some differences and unique character.. just like arms)

kwiatek
29th November 2019, 11:14 PM
This one‘s from Kashgar. I would read it as one long inscription

صاحبه قربان اخوند ابن محمد امین (؟) کاشقری سنه ۱۲۹۸

“Its owner Qurban Akhund ibn Muhammad Amin(?) Kashghari, year 1298 (1881-2).”

I’m not sure if the name “Amin” is correct.

There is another number at the end that’s looks like ۱۷۸۷ (1787). I don’t know what that refers to though it could just conceivably be ۱۲۸۷ (1287) in which case it could be read as 2 inscriptions

1.

صاحبه قربان اخوند سنه ۱۲۹۸

“Its owner Qurban Akhund, year 1298 (1881-2)”

2.

ابن محمد امین (؟) کاشقری ۱۲۸۷

“Ibn Muhammad Amin (?) Kashghari 1287 (1870-1)”

Just to confuse you, another possibility is that Muhammad Amin wrote the inscription on the left in 1287 and then eleven years later in 1298 his son Qurban Akhund wrote the second inscription on the right, adding the word “ibn (son of)” in between.

In any case, good night!