View Full Version : Batak Sword - metal handle - More info?
Bill M
27th December 2018, 09:22 AM
Though I have slown (slowed down) collecting, but was walking through a flea market and saw this Batak sword in a pile of junk. The seller offered a very low price and I took it home with me.
For your perusal and opinions?
ariel
27th December 2018, 09:21 PM
Not my cup of tea, but both are undeniably very pretty.
shayde78
28th December 2018, 01:21 AM
Very nice...pretty enough to be your new avatar.
Bill M
28th December 2018, 02:59 AM
Not my cup of tea, but both are undeniably very pretty.
Thanks, Ariel. What are your favorites, maybe I might have one to post. Bill
Sajen
4th January 2019, 01:34 PM
Hello Bill,
It's a kalasan from the Toba Bataks.
Regards,
Detlef
Bill M
4th January 2019, 11:26 PM
Hello Bill,
It's a kalasan from the Toba Bataks.
Regards,
Detlef
Thank you Detlef. It is good to put a name to it!
It seems quite authentic. Your opinion?
kai
4th January 2019, 11:36 PM
Hello Bill,
Blade stats would be great!
As in the companion thread (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24560) I'd agree with this being clearly Toba style while steering away from calling it a kalasan.
If we go with the common collectors' terminology, I'd tend toward tagging this as a rather longish piso ni datu even if this stretches things a bit.
Age is tough to impossible to assess from pics. If pressed for a guesstimate, I'd tend towards the first half of 20th c. (or later).
Regards,
Kai
kai
5th January 2019, 12:20 AM
Hello Bill,
I just saw that we crossed posts.
Age is tough to impossible to assess from pics. If pressed for a guesstimate, I'd tend towards the first half of 20th c. (or later).
Maybe I'm a bit too cautious - the craftsmanship is above average for the period and warrants close study (the black painted scabbard may be a later "restoration" attempt...)
BTW, for a piece with resembling motifs cp. Fig. viii.16 in Sibeth & Carpenter (2007).
Regards,
Kai
Sajen
5th January 2019, 12:29 PM
It seems quite authentic. Your opinion?
Yes Bill, I think as well that it's an authentic piece, would be glad to have such a Toba sword in my own collection. End of 19th to early 20th century would be my guess.
Regards,
Detlef
Marcokeris
5th January 2019, 12:38 PM
very nice :)
Sajen
5th January 2019, 12:46 PM
I'd agree with this being clearly Toba style while steering away from calling it a kalasan.
If we go with the common collectors' terminology, I'd tend toward tagging this as a rather longish piso ni datu even if this stretches things a bit.
Hello Kai,
yes agree with you that it isn't correct to call it kalasan, piso ni datu would be a better description. ;)
Regards,
Detlef
CharlesS
6th January 2019, 01:07 PM
What is the material covering the scabbard...tar/paint/resin of some sort? I am surprised it also extends to the fittings.
Bill M
6th January 2019, 04:29 PM
What is the material covering the scabbard...tar/paint/resin of some sort? I am surprised it also extends to the fittings.
I will have a closer look. I usually try to keep 'em like I find 'em. But stop rust or degradation. I have over cleaned in the past.
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