silver pointer ? Dutch, oriental, judaica ?

[francantolin]

Hello,
I just bought this silver object,
I really liked the shape and the specials engravings : animals and characters
I don't know what it was made for,
the seller sold it as an umbrella hilt but I don't think so,
seems a little like an jewish yad ?! ( just a little !...)
Any advice ?
Thank you

Franck

[francantolin]

total length is 8,25 inches...

Thank you !!

[A. G. Maisey]

This is a guess, I do not know the purpose of this item.

However I have seen something similar that was the end of a long stick used to move drapes on their rod, it was all wood, it had a ring towards the point that had a cord through it, the bent point was placed against the suspension ring of the drapes, the cord was pulled on to move the drapes along the rod.

[francantolin]

Hello,
Thank you Maisey,

have you perhaps a picture of this kind of stick ?
this point is not a hook at all , no ring attach at the end.
More an icicle shape, or twisted horn ? cornucopia ?( ritual ? )

Maybe a spindle for spinning wool or silk I saw some made of iron
but why in silver ??...

[fernando]

... seems a little like an jewish yad ?! ( just a little !...)...
And why not one ? ;) .


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[fernando]

Just for perusal, the first torah reading implements did not end with a hand finger shape, but with that of a school teacher tapering pointer.

[francantolin]

Seems Ok !
Thank you !!!!!

[Battara]

I was thinking a Torah pointer.

[russel]

I believe the correct term for this type of pointer is "Yad"

[francantolin]

Hello, Yes,
I was asking about jewish yad shape on my first thread,

Yad-Yed ( prononciation ) is the hebrew-arabic name for the hand,
This one is interesting with this special shape ( that's why I wonder about this item )

An early form of pointer as Fernando wrote.

Kind regards

[A. G. Maisey]

QUOTE
have you perhaps a picture of this kind of stick ?
this point is not a hook at all , no ring attach at the end.
More an icicle shape, or twisted horn ? cornucopia ?( ritual ? )

Maybe a spindle for spinning wool or silk I saw some made of iron
but why in silver ??...


The rod I saw that was used to move curtains also did not have a hook at the end, it had a bent or waved end, the same as your silver one, but the one I saw was made of wood. The bend, or wave rested against the round curtain rod.

A little way down from its end your silver item has a ring.

A little way from the end, the wooden rod I saw had a ring in approximately the same place.

To all intents and purposes your silver item, and the last 12" or so of the wooden rod I saw were the same, in fact almost exactly the same, except yours is silver, what I saw was wood.

I saw this rod in 2012 in a farmhouse in Tuscany, Italy. I saw the rod in use a number of times, I was staying in the farmhouse for about a month.

I did not photograph it, indeed, if I saw the same thing again tomorrow I would not photograph it:- household appliances are not of much interest to me.

I am not arguing for acceptance of my suggestion, I am simply stating that I have seen an object with the same design as the silver item under discussion, and that I saw it used a number of times for a specific purpose.

I have placed this second post because it appears from post #4 that my post #3 was not at all understood.