Ottoman karabela XVIII

[qusko]

Hi,

I have bought following Ottoman karabela, which I think is from XVIII century.
Similar item is in Dresden museum (https://skd-online-collection.skd.museum/Details/Index/289073) with following differences:
- hilt and crossguard
- blade in my item is more curved

In some other posts I've found it can be precursor of pala.
It also has a form of polish karabela type IIc, but ottoman origin.
Hilt with the blade is a little bit not typical..but possible

Can you share your opinion?

[Kubur]

Your sword is superb
I think you are right, its an Ottoman pala with a karabela hilt.
18th c. at least for the blade...
You should clean the silvers fittings and guard.
Congrats

[fernando]

Yes; a superb example indeed :cool: .

[qusko]

Your sword is superb
I think you are right, its an Ottoman pala with a karabela hilt.
18th c. at least for the blade...
You should clean the silvers fittings and guard.
Congrats

Thanks :)
I like it very much and indeed some cleaning is required.
About the blade I have similar opinion that it's XVIIIc. I am just not sure if the rest (hilt/scabbard) is from the same period (despite all matches very well)

[Oliver Pinchot]

Nice example. In Turkish museums, these short, broad blades are identified as
naval.

[ariel]

Would not be surprised to see wootz blade. Pattern-welded at the very least. Etching a small window will give an answer, but it would be an easy task: no rusting, no pitting. Not sure about the fittings: on the photograph they look copper alloy to me. Again, a small area rubbed with silver-cleaning paste would direct you to their full cleaning or leaving them as is.
Outstanding example of a true museum quality! Congratulations!

[rickystl]

While mostly a novice with blades, I just want to comment what a beautiful sabre this is. Outstanding looks. Congratulations.

Rick

[qusko]

Would not be surprised to see wootz blade. Pattern-welded at the very least. Etching a small window will give an answer, but it would be an easy task: no rusting, no pitting. Not sure about the fittings: on the photograph they look copper alloy to me. Again, a small area rubbed with silver-cleaning paste would direct you to their full cleaning or leaving them as is.
Outstanding example of a true museum quality! Congratulations!
Thank you Ariel!
For the feetings for sure it's brass.

[ariel]

Then do not touch them!

Shiny brass is vulgar, your patinated one is old, mellow and classy.

[Kubur]

Thank you Ariel!
For the feetings for sure it's brass.

Well i'm 99% sure it's silver, you should try in one small corner, on the non exposed face of the sword... Many people do this mistake old silver looks like brass sometimes.
I agree with Ariel if it's brass don't touch it.