Italian? Swords ID Please

[Terry K]

A friend picked up a bunch of swords from an estate and these were in the grouping. He was told that they most likely came back from Italy in the 1950's. Anyone know exactly what they are and if they are Italian? Era?
Thanks in advance,
Terry

[Terry K]

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[Helleri]

Looks like small swords. Hard to tell much of anything though to my eye. Better pics possible?

[E.B. Erickson]

I can give an opinion on the sword with the facetted pommel: the guard is from the mid-late 1600s, and the pommel, blade (? can't see much of it) and probably grip are from a smallsword or military sword from the last half of the 1700s.

The bronze/brass hilt could be theatrical, or could be a military dress sword of some sort, maybe from the 1800?

Better photos would help a lot!

[Helleri]

You think maybe some sort of fraternal or parade swords?