Hello, everyone, help me with these?

[athena]

Hi all,

A friend of mine recommand this forum to me. I'm glad that many knowledgable people contribute here.

There are two blades that I have no idea and would like your opinons: which country, what style, period and what's the meaning of the letters? :confused:

The first is mine, there is inlaid gold in the flower design. The second I didn't bought.

Thanks very much!

[ariel]

Overall pics would help...
And better pics of the inscriptions, too.
If it is difficult, can you carefully trace them?

[ariel]

The more I look, the more "Ethiopian" comes to mind. May be just an illusion....


Total pic is essential

[Jim McDougall]

Hi Athena,
Welcome to the forum!!
I agree with Ariel, this script lettering certainly does resemble certain examples of Ethiopian gurade. It is typically impossible to identify a weapon simply by the inscription so as Ariel notes, we need a picture of the entire weapon.
Best regards,
Jim

[athena]

Thanks everyone! I guessed it was Russian before. I never imagine it could be Ethiopia, as Ethiopia is so far away. Unfortunately, I didn't buy this sword, and don't have more pictures.

Could anyone help me with the following one? It has inlaid gold at the flower decoration.

[Rick]

This looks almost like an extremely long spear blade ; I think the collar is put on backwards .

Got some dimensions for us ?

[Tim Simmons]

I have been looking in a 1962 publication of the Wallace collection and I think this is a Russian or other Eastern European country with a related script, 18- early 19 cent Pillow, Small or Day Sword. The segmented hilt and tang area, to take a shell or guard and knuckle bow. It would help if there was a sensible picture of the script along with the whole sword.

[roanoa]

I agree that at first glance it looks Ethiopian, BUT I do not believe it is. I think that it may actually be Armenian or Georgian. I remember going nuts over a similar inscription years ago which turned out not to be Ethiopian after all....

[Mark]

Not Ethiopian (Amharic/Ge'ez) letters, that much I know.

[ariel]

I guess we all agree that a better pic of the entire inscription (or segment-by-segment), in both directions (is it upside down, and that is why we can't make sense of the already bad pics???) is needed..Tough to believe that European/ Caucasian noble carried a very long spear in the 18-19th century and this is not a familiar style.
But all these speculations are just speculations: we need to decipher the inscription.