Taureg Telek?

[katana]

I have just taken a risk on this Knife, just purchased off eBay, for £20?!! :) the photo's on the listing aren't too good, but I've enhanced them and posted them below. The listing states it's 'AROUND 1880' (unlikely? :rolleyes: ) IT MEASURES APPROX 19 1/2 INCHES LONG. See what you think?

[spiral]

Not my field but £20 seems a good to me, doesnt look as garish as the more recent ones to my eye.

Spiral

[ariel]

I do not think it can be properly called Telek, but I agree: Tuareg most likely, and 19th cen sounds very plausible.
The handguard reminds me of Takouba.
Nice one!

[Lew]

Ariel

It's an old Hausa tribe arm dagger. Very nice!

Lew

[Tim Simmons]

Not bad for the money, it is a real old one.

[katana]

Thanks everybody,
so it looks likely to be Hausa, and with some age. Is it the style that indicates it's likely age? Am I correct in saying that the Hausa styled swords and knives have a Taureg influence?

[Tim Simmons]

Hello David,
Your question is a little chicken or egg as to who influences who. The hilt on your telek is very typical of Nigerian/Hausa and some Cameroon daggers. I would have a wild guess that the settled areas with more resources for manufacture probably exert the strongest influence. This is just a guess but Taureg hilts are also found in use in Hausa and other areas.

[katana]

Thanks Tim,
your knowledge of African weapons is a valuable resource, I appreciate your many replies to my threads.

Although this knife is probably Hausa, is it still considered a Telek? Or is it a 'Telek styled' knife?

[Tim Simmons]

I think arm knives covers most knives that are carried on your arm , but collectors even historians like specific names I guess. :cool:

[Zan]

Hi everybody,

Even more complicated, Tuareg of Mali call their arm daggers "gouzma" (or "guzma"), and their belt daggers "telak" !

Zan

[katana]

Received knife today, definately old, unfortunate that the scabbard is missing, or would some be made without? I would have thought a bare blade against the arm would not be a good idea. The blade has the 'characteristic' three grooves,parallel, running along both sides of the blade ( not deep enough to be classed as fullers?) which I tend to associate with the Taureg, which now I know is not necessarily true. Is there any significance with these lines? The 'arm band' is leather that is age hardened, is it OK to use leather feed to make it more supple, or is it best to leave 'as is'?
Nevertheless, it's a nice piece and I think a bargain price? (hey, I don't know, I've only recently started collecting :confused: ).Will try to post my own pics soon.

Pictures below, the brass is more tarnished than photo's suggest