17th Century Sabre with lion head pommel for comment.

[Cerjak]

Sold as a German sabre but I have also found a similar exemplar sold by Czernys as swiss.
Any comment on it will be welcome
Best
CERJAK

[Cerjak]

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[Cerjak]

sImilar model sold by Czernys

[Enibas]

Hi Cerjak,

swiss one.

Jürg. A. Meier wrote and described a lot about that sabres

As example look that online collection ...
http://www.waffensammlung-beck.ch/waffe195.html

Texts are in german.

No to exclude, that bavarians and austrians were inspired by swiss style.

Unfortunately nearly all weapons of the Carl-Beck-Sursee Collection nowadays are in depot! :(

kind regards
enibas

[Cerjak]

Hi Cerjak,

swiss one.

Jürg. A. Meier wrote and described a lot about that sabres

As example look that online collection ...
http://www.waffensammlung-beck.ch/waffe195.html

Texts are in german.

No to exclude, that bavarians and austrians were inspired by swiss style.

Unfortunately nearly all weapons of the Carl-Beck-Sursee Collection nowadays are in depot! :(

kind regards
enibas
Hello ENIBAS

Thank you very much for this interesting link.
I'm sure that you have oriented my research me in the right direction
Best

CERJAK

[Jim McDougall]

I just wanted to point out that this style of engraving and with these almost caricature head figure correspond to the French style of the mid 18th century known as Caissagnard situated in Nantes but seems to have extended into Parisian artisans as well.

The thumb ring seems to correspond to Austrian and German hilts.

[Cerjak]

Jim
Thank you for your input about the caricature head.
Best

Jean-Luc

[theswordcollector]

Hi this looks allot like a Swiss horseman's saber with the exception of the quilon and chain which could be more decorative for an officer or hunting model. The brass grip is a bit different than the wood turned examples I have encountered in Eastern Europe. I would suggest this is more of a dress saber due to it's ascetic alterations or an officers model. In field use other than dress or hunt the brass grip and chain would not be suitable in my opinion but it could also be a period custom variation/alteration for an officer. Wonderful find :-)