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GIO
16th December 2015, 10:32 AM
Very sorry. I had problems in resizing the photos.
Trying again.

David
16th December 2015, 11:20 PM
Gio, i'm going to eliminate your other threads on this subject with the missing and under-sized photos.
Looks like a nice Bugis keris to me... :)

Jean
17th December 2015, 08:12 PM
Yes, it looks a nice Bugis kris from Malaysia or East Sumatra with full pamor pattern Timpalaja (roof ridge)/ Tebba Jampu (similar to Ngulit Semangka)/ Teppobaja (Wengkon) according to the Sulawesi names. :)
Best regards

GIO
18th December 2015, 11:41 AM
Many thanks David and Jean

GIO
18th December 2015, 04:28 PM
Yes, it looks a nice Bugis kris from Malaysia or East Sumatra with full pamor pattern Timpalaja (roof ridge)/ Tebba Jampu (similar to Ngulit Semangka)/ Teppobaja (Wengkon) according to the Sulawesi names. :)


Jean, you mean it is a "tiga warna" pamor ? I thought it could be a "dwi warna" (ujung gunung & ngulit semangka).
By the way, I have no idea of what a timpalaja pamor looks like. Maybe similar to ujung gunung ?
Many thanks for your kind advice.
Giovanni

Sajen
18th December 2015, 05:39 PM
Very nice keris Gio, congrats. Agree with Jean about the origin but would guess that it is a Sumatra/Straits Bugis keris.
Great work regarding the pendokok, very well done. I personally would give the scabbard back it's buntut.

Regards,
Detlef

GIO
18th December 2015, 05:59 PM
..... I personally would give the scabbard back it's buntut
Detlef[/QUOTE]

Done already

Jean
18th December 2015, 07:43 PM
Jean, you mean it is a "tiga warna" pamor ? I thought it could be a "dwi warna" (ujung gunung & ngulit semangka).
By the way, I have no idea of what a timpalaja pamor looks like. Maybe similar to ujung gunung ?
Many thanks for your kind advice.
Giovanni

Dear Gio,
As I said the names I gave are those apparently used in Sulawesi (refer to the Bugis kris book if you have it). Yes, Pamor Timpalala is the triangular motif at the base, and there is a clear Teppobaja/ Wengkon frame.
Regarding the buntunt at the tip of the scabbard: if there was a hole, you did well to add a buntut but if the tip of the scabbard was closed, it means that it was the original design (it seems common in Malaysia)

Best regards

GIO
20th December 2015, 08:59 AM
Jean, thanks for clarifying. In fact I do not have the book on Bugis keris.
Best regards
Gio