19thC Hangers

[Miguel]

Hi Everyone,
I thought that you may be interested in these items from various countries and would welcome any comments that you may have on them. They are all Military except the curved one.
Trusting that you will enjoy them.
Miguel

[Miguel]

More photos.
Miguel

[RobertGuy]

Miguel
No 1 is a British Drummers Sword Mk 1 1856 - 1895. Queen Victoria's cypher on the hilt.
No 2 ?
No 3 French 'coupe chou,' Infantry or Foot Artillery, not sure which model.
No 4 British Constabulary /Prison Service Sword 1890-ish.

[Miguel]

Miguel
No 1 is a British Drummers Sword Mk 1 1856 - 1895. Queen Victoria's cypher on the hilt.
No 2 ?
No 3 French 'coupe chou,' Infantry or Foot Artillery, not sure which model.
No 4 British Constabulary /Prison Service Sword 1890-ish.
Robert Guy, Thanks for your comments.
No1. I agree.
No2. I believe this to be a 1810 Patt Russian Imperial Naval Artillery Hanger issued to the lower ranks.
No3. Both the one stamped Jean and the one stamped Talabot I believe to be 1831 French Infantry Briquette.
No4. I agree.
Miguel

[kronckew]

'nother police/prison service sword:

[kronckew]

the cutlass/sabre of the imperial marines, Sailors of the guard, first empire, the old guard. fought as artillerymen in the last square and remained udefeated at waterloo, having seen off a number of attacks by the exhausted british and prussians. the last of napoleons troops to fight at waterloo as he left for paris and the final 2nd abdication.

[Hotspur]

U.S. contract 1818 Starr infantry/artillery nco sword.

I am not sure how we should define hanger but I have many swords with blades less than thirty inches and were ofen carried in a frog type scabbard.

Cheers

GC

[Hotspur]

U.S. militia swords. The shorter ones on our left from the 1840s. Two have spadroon type blades. The two with the narrower reeding to the grips are from Horstmann and the rest Ames.

Cheers

GC

[kronckew]

my spanish 1881 yataghan style artillery sword (mfg 1895) from spanish-american war.

[Shakethetrees]

Here's a little beauty I picked up two years ago right out of the woodwork!

Model 1771 Glaive de l'Artillerie.

Gladius form blade, double edged, cast and chased brass hilt. Two poinçons at the forte. I tried to get some close-ups of these.

Since the reference works I have on French swords is of a very general nature, any info on the marks would be appreciated!

This type has been on my wish list for a long time simply because of its unique form and beauty.

Enjoy!

[Richard G]

With reference to the original No 4. "Hyde Division" was a divison of the Cheshire Police in the 19th Century. Hyde is now a suburb of Greater Manchester. These "sabres" as they were known, were kept in the Division stores, only to be issued when serious riots or disturbances were expected. Being little used they had a long life, And I think this one could easily date from the 1840's.
Regards
Richard

[Miguel]

With reference to the original No 4. "Hyde Division" was a divison of the Cheshire Police in the 19th Century. Hyde is now a suburb of Greater Manchester. These "sabres" as they were known, were kept in the Division stores, only to be issued when serious riots or disturbances were expected. Being little used they had a long life, And I think this one could easily date from the 1840's.
Regards
Richard
Hi Richard,
Since posting this thread I have done some further research which confirms your comment and would thank you for your reply.
Miguel