New Stolen Weapons Alert

[Battara]

Greetings friends,

My house was broken into this past Monday. They looked through the house, trashed the doors, got 2 of my rings, and worse, a chunk of my weaponry collection.

I am missing:

2 gunongs - silver
2 kris with swassa (one with ivory pommel and one with MOP)
1 kris - 1700s and silver
1 barong - ivory and swassa
1 yataghan - Balkan in silver with coral and glass
1 Mandaya sword in silver
1 jambiya - Kurdish in silver
1 jambiya - Turkish with walrus ivory and silver
1 PI dagger - leather and brass scabbard, silver quillons in fern motif
1 PI dagger - Katipunan with sun face and "FG" engraving
1 panabas - double edged with 3 white metal bands and a scabbard

Please look at the pictures and keep on the look out.

My email is battara@hotmail.com if you find any of these.


Thank you.

[Battara]

Other items taken:

[VVV]

Jose, I am so sorry to read about your misfortune.
In case they try to sell your blades here in Europe I will probably notice it and contact you directly.

Michael

[David]

This is every collectors nightmare. Considering what he took he must have some market in mind for these. With vigilance we may well catch the bastard. :mad:

[kino]

What a gut wrencher. I pray it gets recovered.
I'll keep my eyes open.

[Maurice]

I'm sorry to hear this Jose!
It will be hard to sell for them, as we're all be watching out for your stolen pieces..

Maurice

[A. G. Maisey]

My most sincere sympathy for your sad loss, may it be only temporary, and may the mongrels who carried out this theft burn in the fires of Hell forever.

[Nathaniel]

Wow, Jose! :eek: That is just sickening! :( You've given us all now nightmares of our own! Well, here is hoping for a speedy and fully recovery! Little do the bastards know that you have the help of an international network of friends to dragnet! Hopefully it's just a matter of time before these hot items s pop up and we can catch them! I agree with Alan...there should be a special place in Hell for this types of heinous crimes! :mad:

[VANDOO]

JOSE I AM SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS TYPE NEWS. :( IT IS AS MENTIONED ANY COLLECTORS NIGHTMARE. PEOPLE WHO DO THIS SORT OF THING ARE OFTEN YOUNG AND IGNORANT AND ALWAYS GET CAUGHT IN THE END BUT THE DAMMAGE THEY DO IS OFTEN BEYOND REPAIR NO MATTER THEIR PUNISHMENT. I WOULD WATCH YOUR PLACE OR HAVE SOMEONE KEEP CLOSE WATCH AS THESE TYPES OFTEN REMEMBER SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T GET AND RETURN SO BE PREPAIRED. I WILL KEEP WATCH FOR YOUR ITEMS IF THEY SHOW UP FOR SALE IN THE PLACES I LOOK.
GOOD LUCK AND MAY YOUR TREASURES RETURN TO YOU SOON AND LEAVE THE CROOKS WITH NOTHING BUT BAD LUCK AND LONG SENTENCES. " I WILL TRY THIS OLD WELSH GEAS ON THEM AND HOPE IT STRIKES THEM HARD AND SOON"

[Berkley]

Really sorry to hear of this. I know firsthand the feeling of violation that comes from discovering your home breached, your irreplaceable treasures missing, and your sense of security shaken. I hope the authorities are able to help.
I posted a link to this thread on IKRHS so that as wide an audience of collectors as possible can keep their eyes open.

[KuKulzA28]

thats awful

I'll keep my eyes on eBay... hope the police can catch them before the swords even hit the market

[Robert]

Jose, I am so sorry to hear what has happened to you. I will do my best to help in any way that I can in the return of your missing items. I would imagine that these items will either show up at a local pawn shop near you or on Epray sometime in the near future. This is the one thing that I worry about the most every time we leave the house, hence the watch dogs.

Robert

[Battara]

Thank you so much folks! I deeply appreciate your support.! :)

[kai]

Hello Jose,

That is really sad. Of course, I'll also keep my eyes open for your pieces.

Maybe you also want to post pics of the blades for those only shown sheathed?

I'd also suggest that you contact any weapon/ethnographic dealers out there since not all will regularly frequent this forum.

Keep the hopes up! I seem to remember at least one case where stolen antique blades got recovered.

Regards,
Kai

[BANTARU]

terrible. theres just no other words.

ill keep a lookout. :(

[Iain]

I'm very sorry to hear about this and will certainly keep my eyes open. As others have said there are not a huge number of outlets for this sort of material so hopefully there is a good chance for recovery.

[Ferguson]

Jose, I am so sorry. We will all keep an eye out.
Steve

[CutlassCollector]

Yes, sorry to hear this, worst nightmare is right. No insurance pay out can cover this sort of loss. Perhaps a reminder to us all to keep good photographic records as these will surely help any recovery.
Hope yours are recovered soon. CC

[Spunjer]

again, very sorry to hear this, Jose. for those of you in surrounding states (Kentucky) i would advice to check the gunshows as well..

[Mytribalworld]

Hi José,

Enourmous sad news.... but I have strongly the hope that sooner or later these items will dive up as the group of collectors even worldwide is quite small and the items are quite recognizable.

of course we as dealers can look out for them, it is for me even possible to pay attention to it in my newsletter if you want.

Keep hope,

Arjan

[Nonoy Tan]

Very heartbreaking :( I hope that they turn up somewhere and get returned to you.

Nonoy

[laEspadaAncha]

Hi Jose,

Add me to the list of those sorry to hear of the break-in and theft. Fortunately, there are enough forumates around here that should your weaps come up for sale, there is a fair chance one of us will spot it. Here's to hoping the theiving bastards are caught and your items returned safe and sound... and that once they're caught, they can kris their freedom goodbye because they'll be gunong for a loooong time.

[CharlesS]

Battara and I have already talked about this personally. This is every collector's nightmare. Especially knowing Jose, I know he worked very hard for his collection, and know of very few others more spiritually "connected" to their collection. Many of the pieces he lost are pieces he had put countless hours into restoring.

It is a tragedy that can't be rectified soon enough for me.

[Sajen]

Hello Jose,

I am very sorry to read about your bad luck and of course I will keep my eyes open for your items. And I will send this link to a friend collector who visit the forum only sporadic and as well to a chummily dealer of ethnograhic items here in Germany that they will be informed as well.

Best regards,

Detlef

[manteris1]

i am so sorry, i'll be watching.................jimmy

[RSWORD]

For those of us that have had the pleasure of visiting Jose and seeing his collection it almost feels like a piece of our collection is gone as well. They damage you they damage us brother. I'm pleased we have many eyes "on the ground" and I have a deep in the gut feeling some things will find their way back home!

[ward]

Jose we are very sorry to hear about this. We'll keep our eyes peeled in the Southwest.

Ward

[fernando]

I am very sorry for you having been through such terrible episode, José.
Besides the painful loss, i can imagine that one must endure for a long while a bitter state of vulnerability towards his home invasion.

[ariel]

Jose,
Sorry to hear that.

I shall keep my eyes peeled on e-bay.

[christek]

Hi Jose,

So sorry for your loss, a terrible scenario! :mad:

Like others, I too will keep a keen eye out for your items on Ebay and other antique weapon websites. All the best.

Kind regards,
Chris

[Dmitry]

That's terrible. My sympathies! I'm positive at least some of the items will be recovered, if not all. I would advise watching your local craigslist for the next few weeks, and see if one of the pieces comes up, hopefully. CL's become the easiest place for thieves to sell their loot. Especially if they are stupid, as most thieves are. Also a big flea-market nearby might produce a surprise.
Good luck.

[Battara]

Found another sword missing:

[Nathaniel]

:(

[ThePepperSkull]

That's really terrible to hear, Jose.

Any luck getting some of your pieces back?

[Battara]

Unfortunately not yet. Either the thief is still out there and is sitting on them, the pawn shops have not yet posted them, or they are in a warehouse.

Then there are the worse scenarios......

[Jens Nordlunde]

Happy New Year - or is it?
Any news yet?
All the best
Jens

[Battara]

Thank you for asking Jens. No word, and now not anticipating any. :(

[BerberDagger]

STOLEN SAIF , SELLER SOLD ME THIS SAIF AND I RECEIVED ANOTHER SWORD BUT I PAY MORE MONEY FOR THIS SWORD !! IF YOU SEE IN IN THE MARKET EMAIL ME ...

[kahnjar1]

Please keep your eyes open for this Dharia purchased from an Italian seller and never received. Money not returned and contact ZERO. Suspect that seller has decided to keep both the money and the item!!
Please advise me if you see this for sale.
Thanks
Stu

[Andrew]

Please note I have merged the three stolen weapons threads previously "stuck" at the top of the forum.

I do believe it makes sense to stick threads like this so casual readers may see them even years later as one never knows when a lost or stolen item will resurface at auction or similar.

However, let's not have multiple stuck threads. Instead, please use this thread to post any such notices. It will remain stuck.

Andrew
Vikingsword Staff

[Jens Nordlunde]

I dont know if this will help anyone, but I resently read in a Danish net paper that they have started to use 'DNA marking'. They seem to be using this special kind of marking in Sweden and in the UK, and the ones with stickers that they had 'DNA marked' on doors and windows hardly had a break ins, compared to the ones not having the sticker, there the break ins were the same rate as usual.
You contact a security firm delivering this kind of service, and you get/buy a spray, with which you spray your valuables. A contract seems to last about five years. The first year it costs about $100 and the following years about $50.
The 'DNA spray' can only be seen in UW light, and it is unique to the spray bottle used. So if the police find stolen goods at three different addresses, they know that they belong to the same theft. The police then contacts the security firm, and is told who the owner is.
If this is used by the pilice and the customs it could stop a number of thefts.
Jens

[maxbliss888]

Take care

[Battara]

Here is a picture of the yataghan that was stolen from me (pictures restored).

[Battara]

Here is a restored picture of my stolen Moro kris of ivory, swassa, and silver inlay.

[Helleri]

That is really sad to hear. Looks like your using a Sony DSC-W150 for most your images (as apposed to say an on-phone-camera). So they likely didn't pull your location from your images meta data. Which would mean that the thief was not made aware of your collection or your location through sharing the images online. That narrows your field to a local thief. Given the narrow spectrum of items stolen. It's also likely that they knew what they were coming there for. And if that is so, you were cased before you were burgled. Have you had any recent contracted work done in your home (a plumbing job, electrical work, even outdoor stuff like landscaping)?

[napoleon]

very sorry to hear this,can only keep eyes open :eek: best wishes napoleon

[Green]

It breaks my heart to see such an exquisite keris moro stolen from you Battara.
My deepest sympathy and hope you can recover it one day somehow!

[Battara]

Thank you so much folks.

Actually at that time there were a number of homes broken into in the area. Yes they stumbled onto my collection. Fortunately they did not get the most valuable items. Still, I am quite saddened and angry about this loss. Nothing has reappeared so far. I believe they caught the criminal now, but my stuff and others are still missing. At least now we have an alarm (for any would be thieving lurkers out there).

Again thank you folks. You are very kind.........

[napoleon]

SORRY TO HEAR THIS,KEEP AN EYE OUT HERE,AGAIN SYMPATHIES.

[Spaffo]

So sorry! Those items should be hard to fence without attracting the attention of forum members here.
As a police officer I will pass along the pictures and descriptions to our art theft investigators here in Los Angeles. You never where unique items can turn up.

[Spaffo]

Oops! I didn't realize this was an old, old post. If the items are still unrecovered, I will pass the information along anyway.

[COYOTE]

Hello Jose,

What a nightmare !!

I feel so sorry for you and, as a collector, I can imagine how desperate you are.

Please let me add words from others as we all feel the same : I too will keep a vigilant eye for your items on Ebay and other antique weapon websites.

Best Wishes,

Patrick :mad:

[Mefidk]

Hi guys
These three were stolen from me recently. Actually they were stolen in a break-in of the transport company that was shipping them to me from an auction last week.
So sadly I did not get to be sure that that wolf is a real one (I think it probably was based on the rest of the sword), and I did not get better pictures than these.
The two Danish swords were just bi-purchases in the same lot but in case they all turn up for sale together they might to id the kaskara - I just would really like that kaskara!
/Chris

[fernando]

And the pictures, Chris ? ;) .

[Mefidk]

and the pictures

[jokrho]

Sad to hear about this. Will be on the lookout for these pcs and alert you.

[xasterix]

On a related note...if it's not weapons that can be stolen, it can also be money...exercise caution in transactions even from here...as a safety precaution I always insist on Paypal if it's a deal from the Swap Forum...I got a random offer recently from the forums but I turned it down because the seller had no Paypal...

[Will M]

They say these kinds of robberies typically are done by someone who was in your home in the recent past. Possibly a friend brought over someone you didn't know? It's a start in looking to where to find them. Taking such one of a kind items is not a random theft and stupid if the person wants to cash them in quick being easily identifiable. Call local pawn shops and watch online.