Show us your Powder flask

[Kubur]

I noticed very few threads about powder flasks and bullet containers.
Do you have some nice Ottoman / Persian stuff to share?
:p

[stelio]

Four greek ottoman bullets case (palaskas).first half 19 century.

[Robert]

As this subject and the items that will be discussed here are more weapons related and not actually weapons themselves I am moving this thread to the Ethnographic Miscellania forum.

Best,
Robert

[BANDOOK]

KUBUR HERE ARE MY POWDER FLASKS
1-TURKISH/OTTOMON POWDER FLASK
2-TIBETAN POWDER FLASK MADE FROM THE HORN OF BHARUL[TIBETAN ANTELOPE]
3-MORROCON BEE HIVE POWDER FLASK
4-AFGAHAN /CENTRAL ASIA POWDER FLASK
CHEERS RAJESH

[Kubur]

Dear Stelio & Rajesh,

Thanks, they are great stuff.
I will post tonight a palaska, a Moroccan primer flask and a Mughal powder flask.
Rajesh, I think your first one is Moroccan (I'm sure in fact).

Best,
Kubur

[Kubur]

You have a coin dated from 1336/ 1917 on it.
So the powder flask should be from 1917 or a little bit later.

[BANDOOK]

You have a coin dated from 1336/ 1917 on it.
So the powder flask should be from 1917 or a little bit later.
THANKS KUBUR FOR THE INFORMATION,LOOKING FORWARD FOR YOUR POWDER FLASK COLLECTION,ALSO PLEASE POST ALL YOUR ETHINOGRAPHIC MUSKETS/MATCHLOCKS IN YOUR COLLECTION AND I SHALL DO THE SAME,REGARDS RAJESH

[Norman McCormick]

A couple more Palaskes.
Regards,
Norman.

[Kubur]

Here I post two bullet containers, Ottoman, Bulgarian I think.
Tomorow the powder flasks...
For the muskets and matchlock, I think you should open a thread on
Indian matchlock, another on Arabian longuns and may be another one on Ottoman muskets. I will try to fill the threads if Ihave something to put in... ;)

[kahnjar1]

Dear Stelio & Rajesh,

Thanks, they are great stuff.
I will post tonight a palaska, a Moroccan primer flask and a Mughal powder flask.
Rajesh, I think your first one is Moroccan (I'm sure in fact).

Best,
Kubur
I agree with Kubur.....#1 is definitely Moroccan.
Stu

[BANDOOK]

1-A NORTH AFRICAN POWDER-FLASK, to mid to late 19th century, the horn body strongly curved, with white-metal embossed mounts and hinged lid with lozenged spout
2- TWO BRASS NORTH AFRICAN POWDER OR SHOT MEASURES, mid to late 19th century, probably Moroccan
I JUST BOUGHT THESE FROM AUCTION IN U.K

[stelio]

My opinion from a little bronze boxes is a ottoman crease carrying cases and the other is a powder measure.

[Berkley]

A type reputedly based on a camel scrotum. Whether or not the origin is apocryphal , it does lend itself to easier refill, and has a larger capacity than many other designs.

[kahnjar1]

Was going to wait before showing these but the thread is growing...............
By the way Berkley what about a full length of that Jezail..............
Assuming the pics line up ..
#1 Omani Wooden Flask
#2 Brass Arabian/North African
#3 Omani Talahiq Silver with gold decoration
#4 Silver Indo/Arab Primer flask
#5 Omani/Arabian Copper with brass decoration
#6 Omani with silver decoration
#7 Indian Barutdan...the cork of course is not original!! I should also add that this item is not here yet and the pic is the sellers hence the small size. Once it arrives I will post a better pic

Enjoy
Stu

[rickystl]

hello everyone. I have not been Posting or starting new Treads here on the Forum for a long time. So I need to get back into the Party. :)
Those are some really nice powder and bullet containers posted above. Thanks for sharing.
Here is my collection of Ethno powder and bullet containers. I can describe each, but most of them will be familiar to you.

Bandook: That is a good idea. If all of us on this Tread will post pics of their Ethnographic firearms, I believe we could all enjoy a good time. There's not that many of us that are interested in the guns. Most are interested in the blades and armour (I don't blame them). My special area of interest are the Balkan/Ottoman/Turkish/Greek, etc. flintlock firearms. Some I have have been restored to firing condition. :D I've only posted a couple in the past, but have many more if you are all interested. Would also like to see your guns! What do you all think? Thanks, Rick.

[rickystl]

A couple more pics of the Turkish belt buckle.

[Kubur]

Woaw, Omani powder flask, Ottoman belts...Just so beautiful
I add
One Ottoman powder flask with a stamp
Probably for the silver parts (please see the thread about algerian bishaq)
One primer flask from Afghanistan
One powder flask from Pakistan, probably Mughal
One Ottoman powder measure
One Ottoman bullet box
One Moroccan primer flask...
BUT after the thread on the Kohl flasks, I wonder if my primer flask is not in fact a khol flask...What do you think Khanjar?
All the best,
Kubur

[Kubur]

The pictures

[rickystl]

Oh Great!! Even more. All beautiful!! Thanks Kubar for Posting. Hope we see some more. There are more of these collected here on this Forum than I first thought. Great.
Do you think there would be enought interest if I started a new Thread with a different Ethno gun each week? Thanks, Rick.

[kahnjar1]

Hi Kubur,
I assume you are referring to the last pic that you show? As you do not show size of the item, or if there is a "wand" inside, I can not comment on what it actually is. IF there is a wand inside then it is a Kohl pot. The loops on the outside would perhaps suggest that it IS a Kohl but then they could also be for a suspension cord I suppose.
Stu

[Norman McCormick]

Oh Great!! Even more. All beautiful!! Thanks Kubar for Posting. Hope we see some more. There are more of these collected here on this Forum than I first thought. Great.
Do you think there would be enought interest if I started a new Thread with a different Ethno gun each week? Thanks, Rick.


Hi Rick,
Nice to see you back :) A different Ethno firearm each week? Why not!
Regards,
Norman.

[Berkley]

By the way Berkley what about a full length of that Jezail..............

Posted and discussed when first acquired: LINK (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17876)

I have not been Posting or starting new Treads here on the Forum for a long time. So I need to get back into the Party. :) ...
If all of us on this Tread will post pics of their Ethnographic firearms, I believe we could all enjoy a good time....My special area of interest are the Balkan/Ottoman/Turkish/Greek, etc. flintlock firearms. Some I have have been restored to firing condition. :D I've only posted a couple in the past, but have many more if you are all interested….
Do you think there would be enough interest if I started a new Thread with a different Ethno gun each week?

I would certainly be very interested!

[rickystl]

Hi Norman! How have you been? Yes, I've been away too long.
Those two Greek bullet containers are really nice. The Greek specimens always seem to bring more $ than their Turkish counterparts.
I own a lot of Ethno guns, many in restored shooting condition which some of the Forum members might find interesting. So I guess there is no time like the present. So I'll post the first one today in the Ethno Arms section.
Do you still have that Scottish Snaphaunce? Thanks, Rick. :)

[rickystl]

Posted and discussed when first acquired: LINK (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17876)



I would certainly be very interested!
Hi Berkley. Thanks for the Link. I have some catching up to do. :o
Since you brought up Jazail, I'll start with that one. Thanks, Rick.

[kahnjar1]

[QUOTE=Berkley]Posted and discussed when first acquired: LINK (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17876)

Hi Berkley,
Old age dulls the mind.....of course I now remember your previous post.
Stu

[Norman McCormick]

Hi Norman! How have you been? Yes, I've been away too long.
Those two Greek bullet containers are really nice. The Greek specimens always seem to bring more $ than their Turkish counterparts.
I own a lot of Ethno guns, many in restored shooting condition which some of the Forum members might find interesting. So I guess there is no time like the present. So I'll post the first one today in the Ethno Arms section.
Do you still have that Scottish Snaphaunce? Thanks, Rick. :)


Good thanks Rick and yes I've still got the 'Scottish' snaphaunce and the ball and bits are still in the breech :o I'm really looking forward to your firearms threads :cool:
My Regards,
Norman.

[fernando]

I think mine is a Barut Dan. Some say Persian, others say Afghan.
I wonder whether those filed grooves are just decoration or some kind of mark.


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[kahnjar1]

I think mine is a Barut Dan. Some say Persian, others say Afghan.
I wonder whether those filed grooves are just decoration or some kind of mark.


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Nice flask Fernando. How big is it?
I THINK that the marks are only decoration as I have seen similar on other flasks.
Stu

[Kubur]

Hi Fernando
I would say Pakistan Afghanistan or even Oman
but definitively not Persian

[russel]

This ended on eBay recently, I only submitted a nominal bid and didn't win it. I am not entirely sure what it is. Has anyone seen something similar?

[fernando]

Hi Fernando
I would say Pakistan Afghanistan or even Oman
but definitively not Persian
Amazing; i would swear that both Tirri and Stone call it Persian :confused:

[Kubur]

I see one like yours in Tirri's book.
But this poor Tirri did few mistakes.
Look in Elgood "Arms of Arabia" page 50, you have one like yours from Oman.
If you have the same type between Pakistan, Iran and Oman.
I would say that this powder flask is Balutch.
The Omani had a lot of Balutch soldiers during the 19th c.
Ibrahim should help us for that!!!
:)

[kahnjar1]

I see one like yours in Tirri's book.
But this poor Tirri did few mistakes.
Look in Elgood "Arms of Arabia" page 50, you have one like yours from Oman.
If you have the same type between Pakistan, Iran and Oman.
I would say that this powder flask is Balutch.
The Omani had a lot of Balutch soldiers during the 19th c.
Ibrahim should help us for that!!!
:)
I think we all probably agree that there are mistakes in Tirri's book, as there are in other publications, but then we are all still learning.
The item shown on page 50 of Elgood's book is indeed very similar to that shown by Fernando, BUT the text does not mention Oman, simply that the items shown are 19th century. No mention is made as to origin.
Stu

[stelio]

My opinion is that it has a container for oil cleaning that had for weapons.They think it's middle East in 19 century, maybe from Iran.I think that type use from all middle east area(ottoman empire,balkan country's ,arabia,Persia .

[kahnjar1]

Was going to wait before showing these but the thread is growing...............
By the way Berkley what about a full length of that Jezail..............
Assuming the pics line up ..
#1 Omani Wooden Flask
#2 Brass Arabian/North African
#3 Omani Talahiq Silver with gold decoration
#4 Silver Indo/Arab Primer flask
#5 Omani/Arabian Copper with brass decoration
#6 Omani with silver decoration
#7 Indian Barutdan...the cork of course is not original!! I should also add that this item is not here yet and the pic is the sellers hence the small size. Once it arrives I will post a better pic

Enjoy
Stu
Here is the Barutdan. This one came from the UK and is not one of the many aged??versions currently offered for sale from India.

[Kubur]

Hi Russel
I found that, Indian powder flask, very similar to yours...

[kahnjar1]

Hi Russel
I found that, Indian powder flask, very similar to yours...
Maybe and maybe not. The item posted by Russel appears not to have any method of latching the top. The powder would just run out. The one you show Kubur seems to have a screw??spout?

[russel]

Maybe and maybe not. The item posted by Russel appears not to have any method of latching the top. The powder would just run out. The one you show Kubur seems to have a screw??spout?

This is from the seller's description:

"The decorative rings around the top hide the fact that the "loop" finial turns to lock or unlock it. If you look at the inside of top you will see an upper and lower flange or tab...the finial turns these to lock it."

[kahnjar1]

This is from the seller's description:

"The decorative rings around the top hide the fact that the "loop" finial turns to lock or unlock it. If you look at the inside of top you will see an upper and lower flange or tab...the finial turns these to lock it."
That clears up the issue.....Thanks.
Stu

[fernando]

I think we all probably agree that there are mistakes in Tirri's book, as there are in other publications, but then we are all still learning.
The item shown on page 50 of Elgood's book is indeed very similar to that shown by Fernando, BUT the text does not mention Oman, simply that the items shown are 19th century. No mention is made as to origin.
Stu
So where are we getting at, Stu ?
Can i not (even) call it a Barut Dan ?

[Kubur]

Yes there is no mention of the origin but the objects of the whole set are from Oman. So I think your powder flask is from Oman or Balutchistan...

[kahnjar1]

Yes there is no mention of the origin but the objects of the whole set are from Oman. So I think your powder flask is from Oman or Balutchistan...
Could be either but there is a huge distance between the two places. Balutchistan (a part of Pakistan) borders modern day Iran which of course was called Persia......a VERY long way from Oman.
The fact that the pic shows mostly Omani objects does not CONCLUSIVELY mean that they are ALL Omani.
Stone's Glossary shows this general shape as being from Persia and another similar shape as being from Sudan, so perhaps the shape was a rather universal one in the greater region............
IBRAHIIM WE NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE
Stu

[Kubur]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15083&highlight=persian+powder+flask

[kahnjar1]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15083&highlight=persian+powder+flask
I do not see any conclusive evidence here.....many of the items shown in the souks are not Omani. Certainly there is a powder flask of a similar type shown but that in itself does not prove it's origins.

[rickystl]

Hi Fernando. That is a really interesting flask. Hard to pinpoint. Hmmmm I don't believe it is Persian. My guess is Indo-Arab. Sort of built on the Persian design, but decorated in some what Afghan. But you don't usually see Afghan powder containers with such a pronounced curve. Rick.

[fernando]

Points noted, Rick.Thank you.

[junker]

Hi,

well you show me yours,
so I will show you mine.

Nothing special, but maybe the wooden one from northern africa (Elgood)

regards from
Dirk

[VANDERNOTTE]

two more for iden
saludos
jacques

[Kubur]

Where are they??

Dirk, yes your wooden one is from Morocco.
Probably Argania tree.

Kubur

[fernando]

two more for iden
saludos
jacques
No pictures, Jacques ?

[VANDERNOTTE]

i have problem whise this dam machine...paciense
jacques

[VANDERNOTTE]

pic

[junker]

Thanks, Kubur.
I know it came fron Northafrica but i was surprised that it maybe made of arganian tree wood. Never thought of that. Thanks again.
Dirk

[Kubur]

Sorry guys, the powder flask that I showed you previously is not Indian but Afghan...watch this nice pic...

[kahnjar1]

Sorry guys, the powder flask that I showed you previously is not Indian but Afghan...watch this nice pic...
Interesting picture.....check out the guy on the right using what appears to be a rest to steady his aim. Also the placement of the gun stock during firing. The butt appears to be well below the shoulder. If the gun was of European design then the butt would normally be at shoulder level.

[Norman McCormick]

Hi Stu,
You might find this interesting.
Regards,
Norman.

[kahnjar1]

Hi Stu,
You might find this interesting.
Regards,
Norman.
Yes thanks. The butt is off the shoulder but the look of it, more resting on the upper arm. Would have thought that the bruising would have been rather painful......

[stelio]

Two oil case for weapons,from balkan area in 18/19 century.

[rickystl]

Where are they??

Dirk, yes your wooden one is from Morocco.
Probably Argania tree.

Kubur
Agree that the wooden flask is from Morocco - or my guess would be. Algeria.
This Thread has been much fun. It's great to see others powder and bullet containers. Would you have thought there would be this many among all of us? Lol. Thanks all for Posting. I actually have 2-3 more I forgot to Post originally. But will do so in due course. One especially interesting. Rick.

[rickystl]

Interesting picture.....check out the guy on the right using what appears to be a rest to steady his aim. Also the placement of the gun stock during firing. The butt appears to be well below the shoulder. If the gun was of European design then the butt would normally be at shoulder level.
Yes! Great pic! I have not seen this one before. I'll save this in my library.
The Stands for these guns hard really hard to come by. There was an adjustable one that came up for sale about a year ago. But I was too late and missed it. :(
After firing the Afghan Jazail myself, I've come to a couple of conclusions the butt stock not only curves, but also tapers more thin as it reaches the butt cap. If you hold it under your arm pit, it's quite comfortable. And the butt cap does in fact seem to fit the upper most pert of the arm vs the shoulder. The Jazails tend to be barrel heavy, so that would absorb much of the recoil. And that has also been my findings. Rick.

[Battara]

My mistake and apologies for moving to the wrong forum. :o

Continue to discuss amongst yourselves.............

[rickystl]

Hello all. Two more flasks I forgot to include the first time around. One is especially interesting.

1) Typical Indo-Persian, small priming flask most of us are familiar with. It looks iron in the photos, but is all brass and in working order. Needs a proper cleaning.
2) This is one of the most interesting priming flask that I own. And I've never seen another one like it. It appears to be Ottoman. And is "spring loaded". Hold your finger on top of the spout, hold upside down and press inward. Keeping your finger over the spout, release the spring tension, and the spout fills with a small amount of priming powder. And it works fine. There are two holes in the shaft to allow the powder to enter the spout. But there are also two very tiny holes in the shaft to eliminate a vacuum while operating.
Spring loaded flask were common in North America and Europe. But this is the first Ottoman style I've ever seen. Very neat.
Rick.

[rickystl]

More pics........

[rickystl]

And here are two new arrivals.
1) A typical Persian Barut Dan, medium size flask. All brass with the low grade silver/white metal embelishment. All solid and in working condition. Unfortunately, missing one of it's carrying rings. :mad:
2) This is a tiny priming flask from......I don't know where. But the engraving looks somewhat Moroccan (?) :shrug: And I don't believe it's very old. But it's in perfect working order and will make a nice, more authentic addition to my Moroccan long gun while at the shooting range. LOL :rolleyes:
Rick.

[rickystl]

The other tiny one........

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Could be either but there is a huge distance between the two places. Balutchistan (a part of Pakistan) borders modern day Iran which of course was called Persia......a VERY long way from Oman.
The fact that the pic shows mostly Omani objects does not CONCLUSIVELY mean that they are ALL Omani.
Stone's Glossary shows this general shape as being from Persia and another similar shape as being from Sudan, so perhaps the shape was a rather universal one in the greater region............
IBRAHIIM WE NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE
Stu

Salaams Khanjar1 ..Late reply... I missed this entire thread. Your point is good. Oman owned a small swathe of Baluchistan which it sold back to Pakistan in 1950. This was the area around Gwadur seaport. As part of the deal Oman was allowed to continue to recruit Baluch soldiers for Oman up until today...There is an entire tribe in Oman called al Baluch. They stretch all the way down the Baatinah coast and are numerous in Buraimi and Muscat.
The absolutely Omani powder flask is as you have in your collection with silver work throughout and on a chain and often attached to a leather strap and worn around the neck. The second type is a wooden one that you also show often with a silver chain and cover.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[VANDOO]

#1. VARIOUS 19TH CENTURY LEATHER POWDER FLASKS
#2. VARIOUS EASTERN POWDER FLASKS.

[kahnjar1]

#1. VARIOUS 19TH CENTURY LEATHER POWDER FLASKS
#2. VARIOUS EASTERN POWDER FLASKS.
Hi Barry,
Not being "picky".....top pic......the two on the left of the pic are Powder Flasks, the others are shot flasks. All in nice condition by the look of them.
LOVE the Middle Eastern group in the second pic :) :)
Stu

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

More Powder Flasks

[rickystl]

#1. VARIOUS 19TH CENTURY LEATHER POWDER FLASKS
#2. VARIOUS EASTERN POWDER FLASKS.
Hi Vandoo.
WOW!! What a nice collection of powder/shot flasks. Very good!
Rick.

[Kubur]

What is this?

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

What is this?


Salaams Kubur... This looks like Indian paintwork...Rajastan? on a camel skin gunpowder holder...said to be male the Camel organ..!
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[corrado26]

Here are a powderflask made in Brescia ca. 1600 and an oriental bulletcontainer from my collection
corrado26

[Kurt]

These small containers are for priming powder.
Best Kurt

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Powder Flasks and Containers. The cartridge shaped items are Russian. The orange coloured teardrop flask with silver rectangles inside a black backround is Japanese Edo Period. :shrug:

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Here is a picture with the participants; A Sikh group wearing War Quoits on special head dress... :shrug: Note one has a nice powder flask on his belt.

[Kubur]

Hi Ibrahim,

Another one, from Yemen, I guess from Hadramawt...

Best,

[Drabant1701]

This is a 19th century Ottoman powder flask that I own. Its missing the top piece and there are som loss to the decoration. Despite the faults I really like this flask, someone put a lot of work and effort into making it.

[Kubur]

Look I have the little sister...
But your is much better... Congratulations!

[Kubur]

Just for our database (not mine, just sold recently)
Primer flask, South Arabian, Yemen

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

I spotted a couple of interesting powder flasks; Two nice Central Asian flasks(Barutdan) with exotic surface style ...one with a birdshead and eye of Turquoise...I show two moon shaped (Talahiq) of Oman...and one interesting Gourd design(Barutluk) with Turkoman style decoration. The black barutdan with studs is Persian :shrug:

[kahnjar1]

I spotted a couple of interesting powder flasks; Two nice Central Asian flasks(Barutdan) with exotic surface style ...one with a birdshead and eye of Turquoise...I show two moon shaped (Talahiq) of Oman...and one interesting Gourd design(Barutluk) with Turkoman style decoration. The black barutdan with studs is Persian :shrug:
Nice group Ibrahiim.
The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder, though it could well do both jobs. See this link http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994
Here are two more also included here for library purposes.
Stu

[fernando]

...The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder ...
Yes, i have been through such experience as well, with a local seller. I managed to returned them, though, as the deal was based on an actual powder flask basis :shrug:.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Nice group Ibrahiim.
The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder, though it could well do both jobs. See this link http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994
Here are two more also included here for library purposes.
Stu


Yes I was aware of the detail outlined by Oliver Pinchot but I found this on Imperial Arms as a sold item as I recall... It has its own name Barutluk.(Barut being gun powder...)..and is decorated in Turkoman design so it is certainly Central Asian ... Imperial describe it as for gunpowder. Certainly the other smaller exotic designed items are well documented but I thought to include this Gourd for comments...

I was looking across Forum and at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994 it quite nicely explains these as snuff boxes...which is a powder...thus easily confusable...though I wouldnt like to mix the two things up!!

[Drabant1701]

It has been some time since someone added to this interesting thread, so I am resurrecting it with another heart shaped turkish powder flask from my collection. It is most likely from around 1800 and made out of wood with brass decoration. The stopper is bone or horn.

[BANDOOK]

RARE NEW ZEALAND MAORI MUSKET WARS POWDER HORN IN MY COLLECTION,HAS PLUG MADE OF DEER ANTLER AND HAS SILVER AND OTHER SIDE WOODEN PLUG ,REGARDS RAJESH

[BANDOOK]

HERE ARE 2 OF MY MOROCCON POWDER HORNS,CHEERS

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

The Omani Talahiq gunpowder flask worn in the correct position ...

[fernando]

Hi guys,
Does this one fit in here ... a rather worn Portuguese rural hunting leather belt with its shot flask and powder horn.
I wouldn't doubt this set has seen a lot of 'action'.

.

[corrado26]

Here are two powder flask of my collection. The iron one was used for the priming powder, the bone one is rather hard for me to date and I 'd appriciate comments.
corrado26

[corrado26]

Nobody for a comment on the bone flask?

[fernando]

Other than it is a most interesting and atypical piece ? :cool: .

[Drabant1701]

I cant say anything about the age of the flask. But one of the pictures looks like a picture of Saint George and the dragon, George holding a swedish or finnish flag. Very intresting objekt once you take the time to really look at it. Thanks for sharing.

[stelio]

Bronze powder flask from Balkan area 19th century .

[rickystl]

Nobody for a comment on the bone flask?
Hi Corrado.

That bone flask looks like it was made for hunting. Maybe Bavarian or Dutch?
It certainly is nice looking. This would be a good one for Matchlock to comment on if he were still with us. My guess is 18th Century - or earlier. It's in great condition. Wish I could offer more help.

By the way, that is a magnificent looking Wheellock Dag and Flsk !!!!

Rick

[rickystl]

This Thread has produced a large quantity of wonderful looking Ethno flasks. Thanks to all that participated.
Here are two Indian flasks that I posted seperately a couple months ago. I'll re-post here just for this Thread......

A very nice Barudan wrapped in tooled leather in wonderful condition. And a smaller, painted wooden flask in the shape of a fish, probably from South India.

Rick

[TVV]

Here is a powder flask, described as Moroccan in Stone. Unfortunately, it is not pictured among the flasks in Buttin's plate about Morocco and North Africa. I do not have reasons to doubt Stone's attribution, but then again, I have also never seen a picture or a drawing confirming it.

[kahnjar1]

Hi Teodor,
Here is a very similar one which I bought recently as Moroccan. Interesting tool came attached to this one.....
Stu

[Kubur]

Hi Both
Yes Moroccan
Here two of them and one very similar to yours
Best,
Kubur

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Powder flask (Northwest India, 18th century, wood, paint, gilt) on display in Museum of Islamic Art. Doha, Qatar, February 27, 2010

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Here are two powder flask of my collection. The iron one was used for the priming powder, the bone one is rather hard for me to date and I 'd appriciate comments.
corrado26


Salaams corrado26 These appear to be German or Italian possibly Ox Bone and I think antler tips on top. Late 16th C.

Similar below;

[stenoyab]

A small primer flask from my collection in the shape of a Dove.

With inlay to both sides.

[fernando]

Interesting little example . Could you post a larger picture ?

[stenoyab]

Heres another priming flask in my collection that came as part of a complete belt rig.

Horn with some nice carving in the shape of a snakes head (Cobra?).

When you press the brass disc on the underside of the flask, it pushes the two ribs of horn and opens the mouth of the snake so you can pour powder.

[rickystl]

Hi Stenoyab.

Those are two very interesting flasks/horn. The tiny priming flask looks Persian.And looks very well made.
The horn has a very interesting opening/closing mechanism. Never seen this before.
Both very cool. Thanks for posting.

Rick

[rickystl]

Here are two recent aquisitions. The seller advertised them both as Moroccan.
But I believe the one with the straps and bullet pouches may be Algerian. Difficult to find these with their original leather strappings intact.

Notice how similar the Moroccan flask looks to others posted above. Seems that 3-4 styles were dominant in the Region.

Rick

[stenoyab]

Very nice Rick, not seen one with the leather straps still.

Heres the belt rig that came with the horn primer flask.

[rickystl]

OH YES !!! Very nice rig Stenoyab!! What is the little box with the chain attached ?

Rick.

[rickystl]

Possibly a fire stricker ?

[stenoyab]

Hi Rick,
Yes a fire striker/pouch, it opens up to show a small pocket for tinder or even maybe match cord?.

I assume this rig is for a matchlock rather than a later flint firearm.

[rickystl]

Very neat. Yes, could have been used to light matchcord or just a camp fire. Probably both. The long chain would allow it's use without having to remove it from the belt. The whole rig looks Afghan to me. Very neat. Especially the mechanism to open the horn.

Rick

[rickystl]

An interesting feature of this Algerian flask is the two small pouches suspended below the flask. They look as if they were used to carry bullets. One of the pouches has a blackened hole worn through the bottom. My guess is from the weight of the lead bullets over a long period of time.
Curious is the length of the straps to the pouches. Hmmmm. Possibly for use as a counter-weight (when filled with lead balls) to keep the flask from jumping around while on horseback (?). Just speculating. LOL

Rick

[Kubur]

An interesting feature of this Algerian flask is the two small pouches suspended below the flask. They look as if they were used to carry bullets. One of the pouches has a blackened hole worn through the bottom. My guess is from the weight of the lead bullets over a long period of time.
Curious is the length of the straps to the pouches. Hmmmm. Possibly for use as a counter-weight (when filled with lead balls) to keep the flask from jumping around while on horseback (?). Just speculating. LOL

Rick

Hi Rick,

I missed your post.
I think that your seller was right.
IMHO your powder flask is Moroccan... But close to the Algerian border...

Best,
Kubur

[aspalathos]

Four greek ottoman bullets case (palaskas).first half 19 century.

Hello nice palaskas. Are you sure that are from Greece ?

[mahratt]

Priming Flask. Persia.

[aspalathos]

Here are my..

[SwordLover79]

Turkish?

[aspalathos]

A couple more Palaskes.
Regards,
Norman.

Nice!

[aspalathos]

Need help …

[kahnjar1]

Has looks similar to decorations on Yemeni Jambiya scabbards. Not likely to be a powder flask as neck is too wide. Maybe a lime container?? Perhaps if no replies eventuate here it could be worth posting as a serapate thread.
Stu

[aspalathos]

Has looks similar to decorations on Yemeni Jambiya scabbards. Not likely to be a powder flask as neck is too wide. Maybe a lime container?? Perhaps if no replies eventuate here it could be worth posting as a serapate thread.
Stu

Tnx Stu!

[Sylektis]

Athena, symbol of revolutionary Greece.

[mahratt]

Athena, symbol of revolutionary Greece.

Very interesting! Thank you!

[newyorkcobra]

I have two large Moroccan powder flasks in my collection. One is covered in scrimshawed camel bone and has engraved silver escutcheons containing coral and turquoise stones. The fill spout is camel bone. The second powder flask is covered in engraved silver with flower shaped escutcheons containing coral stones. The entire surface also contains silver rivets, and the fill spout is also camel bone. The workmanship on both flasks is very fine. Can you fellow collectors give me your opinions/any info on these flasks? Thank you!

[Ian]

newyorkcobra,

Welcome to the forum. Pictures would help get detailed information.

[cyten]

Just picked these up in Turkey a couple days ago

[cyten]

And while on a day trip in Tbilisi

[napoleon]

Its a lime pot ,used with betel nut a mild narcotic stimulant, not a powder flask

[cyten]

Its a lime pot ,used with betel nut a mild narcotic stimulant, not a powder flask

what is?

[kahnjar1]

I think it relates to post #119 above.
Stu