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Multumesc
9th February 2014, 12:31 PM
The old shield has been presented elsewhere.Now is mine.I restored and now looks better.I do not know what is written on it.He is shield before restoration.

Multumesc
9th February 2014, 12:47 PM
Shield after restoration.I want to help me with translating the text from the shield.Thank you very much.

Multumesc
9th February 2014, 12:51 PM
And other pictures.

Sajen
9th February 2014, 01:29 PM
Very good job you have done! :) The shield look very nice now. Which advice you have followed?

Regards,

Detlef

fernando
9th February 2014, 02:51 PM
Very good job you have done! :) The shield look very nice now. Which advice you have followed?

Regards,

Detlef
Good question :rolleyes: ;)

Sancar
9th February 2014, 05:17 PM
Great work! Can you please post pictures of inner side of the shield?

Multumesc
9th February 2014, 07:35 PM
The shield I put in a plastic box over it poured vinegar 9 degrees. Everyday you clean it with hot water from the sink with a plastic brush, then enter back into the tank with vinegar repeating this process for 7 days.In the last day after I removed the vinegar and I rinsed and cleaned with plastic brush, I rinse well .No is immediately as gloss metal. After a good drying I gave wire brush .After the treatment with vinegar were removed about 1mm layer of rust.Rust finding the bottom of the bowl with vinegar. Put vinegar to cover the shield.This process is not suitable for objects worn.Vinegar can attack some important details.The object is kept under control.

spiral
9th February 2014, 07:44 PM
Looks like a new one!

spiral

Martin Lubojacky
9th February 2014, 09:07 PM
Hi multumesc,
If you treat old metal with water, or water solution, water you use should be free of chlorine (destilled or boiled, at least). Otherwise, from the long time period point of view, it could be affected with inner corrosion (even after "relatively good" drying).
Regards,
Martin

AJ1356
10th February 2014, 01:33 AM
looks nice, It is Persian or Afghan. If you get better pictures of the text I could let you know what it says. There should be a marker to mark the begining of the text.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi
10th February 2014, 08:47 AM
Salaams all..Please note ..that using hot vinegar is extremely dodgey... first it will take the paint off a door at 1000 yards !! and rip off rust like its not there... and if you slop it in your eyes ... well its a bit like battery acid. As already noted soapy water or perhaps coke-cola and continuous checking over short periods but please be advised on the agressive nature of hot vinegar!... I wouldn't normally comment much on cleaning methodology :) except to mention that it is the ethnographics we are after not the aesthetic or cosmetic technology...Though properly done it may be admired; you can't always put patina back.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 12:30 PM
Still, I would like someone to help me with translating the text on the shield. :shrug: :shrug: :) Please and thank you very much in advance. ;) :)

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 05:57 PM
New pictures for translation. Photo1

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 05:59 PM
PHOTO 2

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:01 PM
PHOTO 3

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:03 PM
PHOTO 4

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:04 PM
PHOTO 5

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:07 PM
PHOTO 6

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:08 PM
PHOTO 7

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:12 PM
PHOTO 8

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:14 PM
PHOTO 9

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:19 PM
PHOTO 10

Multumesc
10th February 2014, 06:21 PM
PHOTO 11

Multumesc
17th February 2014, 10:55 AM
We found that the shield was brought from Syria.I want you to help me with translate of the text.Thank you very much. :) :) :)

AJ1356
17th February 2014, 02:08 PM
I asked for better pictures on an earlier post, if you can get me those I could translate it for you. The text is Farsi, I think I even know from which book. Just get me better pictures. Pictures of one word at a time wont help.

Multumesc
18th February 2014, 06:07 PM
I wrote the text on the shield, for translation. ;) Thank you very much. :)

Multumesc
18th February 2014, 06:10 PM
PHOTO 1

Multumesc
18th February 2014, 06:18 PM
Detailed pictures

Multumesc
18th February 2014, 06:20 PM
:shrug:

Multumesc
18th February 2014, 06:22 PM
:shrug: :)

ALEX
18th February 2014, 08:21 PM
We found that the shield was brought from Syria.I want you to help me with translate of the text.Thank you very much. :) :) :)

Speaking of acid, this shield was made by acid-etch technique with some hand engraved touches, and it's a bazaar production. It certainly could have been sold in Syria, just as in any other Eastern or Asian market where acid etch items were produced for the tourist market.

Multumesc
20th February 2014, 01:16 PM
Most of the weapons in history, were purchased in the bazaar. ;) My shield is old and original.The shield is not tourist. :cool: You've seen the pictures look like before restoration?Acid etching weapons (swords, halberds, shields, etc.) is many hundreds of years ago. ;) Anyway thank you very much for your opinion. :) But I am interested in more than what is written on it.Below is a picture from the 19th century that authentic military weapons (swords, shields) were sold in the bazaar in Syria.So how to translate text on the shield?Thank you. :)

Multumesc
20th February 2014, 01:24 PM
Below is a picture from the 19th century that authentic military weapons (swords, shields) were sold in the bazaar in Syria. ;)

ALEX
20th February 2014, 02:59 PM
Most of the weapons in history, were purchased in the bazaar. ;) My shield is old and original.The shield is not tourist. :cool: You've seen the pictures look like before restoration?Acid etching weapons (swords, halberds, shields, etc.) is many hundreds of years ago. ;) Anyway thank you very much for your opinion. :) But I am interested in more than what is written on it.Below is a picture from the 19th century that authentic military weapons (swords, shields) were sold in the bazaar in Syria.So how to translate text on the shield?Thank you. :)

It is what it is. And it is a tourist item. "Bazaar production" does not mean where it was sold, it means how it was made and what buyer it was intended for. It was made in a quickest and cheapest way possible, to be sold to anyone, as souvenir or gift. You're making a mistake assuming that rust and oxidation are signs of age and originality. They are not. The quality and features of the item are!
Also, what acid-etched weapons you mentioned are hundreds years old?
Have you considered 19th century revival acid-etched items comparing to your shield?
What do you mean by "old and original"? Specifically, how old do you think this shield is and of what origin?

Multumesc
21st February 2014, 10:39 AM
Thank you very much for your opinion Alex. ;) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Multumesc
22nd February 2014, 05:35 PM
I had better pictures with text Farsi. I copied the text with a marker on a special paper for translate...ll pray especially Mr. AJ1356 if I can translate the text on the shield.You said it FARSI text.Please both you and the entire forum - Ethnographic Weapons-in translating this text because I like oriental culture.Thank you for your support and especially appreciate the effort that you submit in knowledge of history.Multumesc.

Multumesc
5th March 2014, 06:47 PM
On a shield almost identical mine I found these words.What do you think about these words? :shrug: Thank you very much gentlemen. :)