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pinoy
22nd January 2006, 02:25 PM
Just wanna show this kampilan. Item measures 39in. overall.

pinoy
22nd January 2006, 04:25 PM
BTW its an ivory kampilan.

Spunjer
22nd January 2006, 04:29 PM
nice! can you provide closeups on the blade??

Lew
22nd January 2006, 04:38 PM
BTW its an ivory kampilan.

Hi Pinoy

Are you sure that it is ivory? It may be whale bone? The grain structure does not look like ivory to me. Is there another type of marine animal that this ivory could have come from?


Lew

nechesh
22nd January 2006, 04:51 PM
My thoughts exactly Lew. It looks more like bone to me. Still quite nice though. I would also like to see close-ups of the blade as well as the tip if you don't mind. :)

Battara
22nd January 2006, 07:33 PM
I'm in agreement. I've seen whalebone kampilans and this looks whalebone to me also. Also looks like baided silver bands as well.

pinoy
23rd January 2006, 03:08 AM
Nope. Maybe your just used to seeing newer types of ivory kampilan. This is an early 1900's example. This ivory is similar to the examples shown on the museums in Spain.

Rick
23rd January 2006, 03:46 AM
Not like any ivory I've ever seen . <shrug> :confused:
I own a couple of 19th C. examples of ivory .
I'd like to see some close ups of the end grain on the crossguard and hilt .

Andrew
23rd January 2006, 03:56 AM
Another vote for bone, here. :)

Regardless, that's a beautiful sword, pinoy. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Got any pix of the tip?

Ian
23rd January 2006, 04:27 AM
Cato shows two excellent examples on p. 51 of his book Moro Swords (Figures 31,32), one bone-hilted and the other a superb ivory-hilted example that resides in the National Museum of the Philippines. Those two examples and the one above are typical of Maranao work from the Lake Lanao region.

The hilt of Pinoy's example shows a grain most unlike elephant or marine ivory, but is consistent with bone. Whale bone is a good possibility.



Ian.

Spunjer
23rd January 2006, 05:23 AM
ivory kampilan

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002668.html

pinoy
23rd January 2006, 06:15 AM
well thanks for the info guys, nice pics on the link spunjer. BTW who owns that ivory kampilan?

MABAGANI
23rd January 2006, 06:51 PM
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002668.html
Greetings Pinoy, the kampilan in the post is bone, too, I've handled it, not that ivory is better, I prefer the dense polished bone type, doesn't feel as delicate as ivory. Can we see the blade tip? btw Pacquio!lolz

Spunjer
23rd January 2006, 07:37 PM
my bad! thanks for the correction, mabagani!!!


yup. PACMAN rulez! :cool: