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BerberDagger
21st November 2013, 09:49 PM
Hi, anyone have pics or books reference on all the islamic axe form ? not only axe head but olso the form of the staff ...

thnak you

Emanuel
21st November 2013, 10:22 PM
Hi there,

If you mean Arabian axe forms, read up on the jerz from the Musandam region of Oman (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/916484-Musandam-Axe-The-legend-of-Jerz) It's been discussed on the forum before (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpost.php?p=120590&postcount=13)

Otherwise there are the Indo-Persian axe forms eventually adopted by Ottomans as well.

Emanuel

estcrh
22nd November 2013, 04:54 AM
Hi, anyone have pics or books reference on all the islamic axe form ? not only axe head but olso the form of the staff ...

thnak you

You can see quite a few varieties here.
http://www.pinterest.com/samuraiantiques/indo-persian-mace-flail-war-hammer-and-axe/

Ibrahiim al Balooshi
25th November 2013, 07:30 AM
Hi, anyone have pics or books reference on all the islamic axe form ? not only axe head but olso the form of the staff ...

thnak you

Salaams BerberDagger~ For references I suggest The Craft Heritage of Oman by Richardson and Dorr and our own thread already mentioned at post #13 on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13791&highlight=jerz

I have been trying to get an exhibit from Musandam that is claimed to be a wootz head Jerz... and of the battle axe size about the size of a mans hand... much bigger than the usual quite small forms.

I also understand that the curator at the Al Ain Museum has a treatise on the subject of Jers axes and based on quite a collection though as yet I have not seen it...

Further axes can be seen on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12134&highlight=wallace

A brilliant thread!

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

spiral
25th November 2013, 08:55 AM
Salaams BerberDagger~ For references I suggest The Craft Heritage of Oman by Richardson and Dorr and our own thread already mentioned at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showp...90&postcount=13

I have been trying to get an exhibit from Musandam that is claimed to be a wootz head Jerz... and of the battle axe size about the size of a mans hand... much bigger than the usual quite small forms.

I also understand that the curator at the Al Ain Museum has a treatise on the subject of Jers axes and based on quite a collection though as yet I have not seen it...

Further axes can be seen on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...LACE+COLLECTION A brilliant thread!

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.


You're Links don't seem to be working correctly Ibrahim?



spiral

Ibrahiim al Balooshi
25th November 2013, 09:45 AM
You're Links don't seem to be working correctly Ibrahim?



spiral


Salaams spiral ~ Fixed now Sir !
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Horsa
25th November 2013, 10:07 AM
Spiral there does not seem to be a single treatise. In any book on Islamic arms and armour you tend to get a couple of pages devoted to maces and axes but Ive never come across a work that discusses the evolution of the weapon over time for the different cultures and includes the major examples.

If one were produced I would be first on the order list. Judging from the pin interest pages Im not alone in being very interested in these types of weapons.


Horsa

spiral
25th November 2013, 04:11 PM
Salaams spiral ~ Fixed now Sir !
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.


Bonjour Ibrahiim!

Indeed! Thank you!

spiral

spiral
25th November 2013, 04:13 PM
Spiral there does not seem to be a single treatise. In any book on Islamic arms and armour you tend to get a couple of pages devoted to maces and axes but Ive never come across a work that discusses the evolution of the weapon over time for the different cultures and includes the major examples.

If one were produced I would be first on the order list. Judging from the pin interest pages Im not alone in being very interested in these types of weapons.


Horsa


Hi Horsa, I think your repley is for Berber Dagger rather than myself? :shrug:

But thank you anyway! :)

spiral