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Jean
5th November 2013, 02:07 PM
To follow-up with the thread initiated by Sajen about the unusual planar hilts, I propose to open a new thread showing unique/ rare Madurese hilts, I will start with these 3 jangellan style hilts, your comments will be welcome :)
Regards

David
5th November 2013, 04:07 PM
Nice hilts Jean. I don't believe i would consider the first one a janggelan hilt however. :shrug:

Jean
6th November 2013, 09:21 AM
Nice hilts Jean. I don't believe i would consider the first one a janggelan hilt however. :shrug:

Hi David,
I agree that this hilt is difficult to classify because of its peculiar design, it is probably a quite recent piece but I am not sure, any opinion about the iconography? The second one has a purely floral design, and the third one made from antler? shows eagles and fighting monkeys which are difficult to clearly see on the pictures.
And attached are 2 rare specimens of topi style hilts.
Regards

David
6th November 2013, 04:09 PM
Yes, it's unusual alright. The horse and the crown or very typical Madura icons, but i can't really speak to the rest. I am sure i've seen those bundled arrows/spears at the back before, but cant place it. The main figure seems to be part horse, part bird.
I really like the one with the fighting monkeys and eagles. :)

GIO
6th November 2013, 06:29 PM
Jean, I personally don't like the hilt n° 1, but the other are beautiful. The last one has a fascinating patina.

Jean
6th November 2013, 08:08 PM
Jean, I personally don't like the hilt n° 1, but the other are beautiful. The last one has a fascinating patina.

Thank you Gio, I can understand your negative appreciation about the first hilt because of the odd design. The last one is made from marine ivory I think and is very interesting because of the many symbols especially the rare Wilhem's cross.
Best regards

PS: Other contributors to the thread will be welcome!

Marcokeris
10th November 2013, 06:09 PM
Three others

David
10th November 2013, 07:40 PM
Hmmm...we seem to be moving off the concept of "unique". ;)
Jean has suggested to me in PM that i might consider combining this thread with a previous thread on Ornamental Madura Hilts http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6545&highlight=madura+hilts but i was hoping this one would become specific to the really unusual. :shrug: :)

GIO
10th November 2013, 11:27 PM
Marco, though the subject is very common, it is interesting to see the different interpretations of the Dutch soldiers.
You have a full army !

Ganja Iras
11th August 2014, 07:58 PM
To follow-up with the thread initiated by Sajen about the unusual planar hilts, I propose to open a new thread showing unique/ rare Madurese hilts, I will start with these 3 jangellan style hilts, your comments will be welcome :)
Regards

hi there

i think i also have something very simillar to your 1st pic ,or completely the same
i bought it in bali ,made of wood and i guess the hilt is new made
a friend from madura also offer me the same style with different material.
thanks ,

ganja iras

Jean
12th August 2014, 08:36 AM
Yeah, it seems to be a popular model, I also saw a similar one made from ivory in a top notch collection but with a lady's head :)
Regards