Rare Article on Malaysian Weapons

[B.I]

i am assuming this is a rare article, or at least its one i had not heard of before. its not directly my field, but the article does cover subjects of interest to me.

Malaysian Weapons in Arabic Literature by S.Q.Fatima.

its very interesting, and delves into early arabic sources. i havent read it properly as yet, as i bumbled on to it whilst looking for something else. its 30 pages long (includng exensive notes) and i think it was written in a journal in the 1970s.
it covers trading routes between malalsia and islam and translates some very early sources.
is anyone familiar with this at all?

[Alam Shah]

Hi B.I, I'm interest in the literature. If you could point me to the right direction, I'll be grateful. :)

[nechesh]

Well that's a tease B.I.
Where do we mere mortals get a hold of this article? :D

[B.I]

sorry, i didnt mean to tease.
i had access to some source material from a noted academic/author and found this article amongst others. it was already a photostat, so i have no idea where it came from. it was with other very interesting articles from various volumes of 'journal for the history of arabic science' published in the 1970s so maybe this was the source of this particular article. as i said, i havent read it yet, so cant offer any more info as yet. i do think its quite intriguing. i think it would extremely hard to find anywhere (i guess)
i have it on my camera but it needs downloading and cleaning up, which i will do. if anyone is interested in having this, please PM me your email address. its 30 pages long, so when i have time to do this, and a number of email addresses, i will batch mail them on. reckon it may take a little while as january is chaos for the english self employed that leave their accounts until last minute!!

[B.I]

i just had a message from my friend whose library i found this in. it was from a journal called 'islamic studies', printed in 1964

[RomaRana]

In many instances it really pays off to be a member of a university library with www.jstor.org access. I find more obscure journal articles then I can count, from beadwork to weapons. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find that one. Just about every academic journal is available on the server.

[ariel]

In many instances it really pays off to be a member of a university library with www.jstor.org access. I find more obscure journal articles then I can count, from beadwork to weapons. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find that one. Just about every academic journal is available on the server.
Highly unlikely if the issue is older than ~ 1995.

[RomaRana]

Highly unlikely if the issue is older than ~ 1995.


Just reading a printout of various historical journals I have and the dates they have on the site.

for instance the american historical review is everything from 1895-1999

Ethnohistory 1954-1999

Journal of Negro History 1916-2001

I believe Jstor is supposed to replace the microfilm system.

[Ian]

In many instances it really pays off to be a member of a university library with www.jstor.org (http://www.jstor.org) access. I find more obscure journal articles then I can count, from beadwork to weapons. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find that one. Just about every academic journal is available on the server.
RomaRana:

No success searching the site you mention. I would be interested in a copy of the article in printed or PDf format if you get around to scanning it.

Some time ago I made an article availble for the cost of the postage and people seemed very willing to pay a small amount to receive it. You might think about recovering any costs you incur in a similar manner.

Ian.

[RomaRana]

I did not find the article yet but I found a plethora of other useful articles and quite frankly I found so much that I got tired of looking. The S. Q. Fatima paper was not on Jstor but there about 20 other databases I have to search (some of which I do not even know how to use yet).

If you want me to post some more samples I would be happy to.

Note the links will not work unless you have Jstor approval.

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The Origin of Indonesian "Pamor"
J. P. Frankel
Technology and Culture > Vol. 4, No. 1 (Winter, 1963), pp. 14-21
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0040-165X%28196324%294%3A1%3C14%3ATOOI%22%3E2.0.CO%3B2-5
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Review: [untitled]
Author(s) of Review: J. H. Hutton
Reviewed Work(s): Keris and Other Malay Weapons by G. B. Gardner
Folklore > Vol. 51, No. 3 (Sep., 1940), pp. 232-233
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0015-587X%28194009%2951%3A3%3C232%3AKAOMW%3E2.0.CO%3B2-1
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Notes on Damascene Steel and Pamor
Hans E. Wulff
Technology and Culture > Vol. 6, No. 4 (Autumn, 1965), pp. 627-629
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0040-165X%28196523%296%3A4%3C627%3ANODSAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-R
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The Early Metal Ages of Indonesia
Robert Heine-Geldern
American Anthropologist > New Series, Vol. 62, No. 2 (Apr., 1960), pp. 330-334
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7294%28196004%292%3A62%3A2%3C330%3ATEMAOI%3E2.0.CO %3B2-G
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Review: [untitled]
Author(s) of Review: Cyril Stanley Smith
Reviewed Work(s): The World of the Javanese Keris by Garrett Solyom; Bronwen Solyom
Technology and Culture > Vol. 21, No. 2 (Apr., 1980), pp. 233-235
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0040-165X%28198004%2921%3A2%3C233%3ATWOTJK%3E2.0.CO%3B2-Q
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21% The George C. Stone Bequest: Chinese and Malayan Arms and Armor
Stephen V. Grancsay
The Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin > Vol. 32, No. 6 (Jun., 1937), pp. 143-148
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0026-1521%28193706%291%3A32%3A6%3C143%3ATGCSBC%3E2.0.CO %3B2-2
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Iron Working as Spiritual Inquiry in the Indonesian Archipelago
Stanley J. O'Connor
History of Religions > Vol. 14, No. 3 (Feb., 1975), pp. 173-190
Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0018-2710%28197502%2914%3A3%3C173%3AIWASII%3E2.0.CO%3B2-O
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Notes on Malay Metal-Work
Walter Rosenhain
The Journal of the Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland > Vol. 31 (Jan., 1901), pp. 161-166
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77. The "Kingfisher" Type of Kris
H. Louis
The Journal of the Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland > Vol. 30 (1900), pp. 78-79
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The Use of Mercury in Metal Ritual Objects as a Symbol of Siva
F. E. Treloar
Artibus Asiae > Vol. 34, No. 2/3 (1972), pp. 232-240
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A Provisional Classification of the Swords of the Sarawak Tribes
R. Shelford
The Journal of the Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland > Vol. 31 (Jan., 1901), pp. 219-228
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[Ian]

RomaRana:

Please keep posting until your tired of doing so. ;)

Ian.

[B.I]

will send them this week (before weekend) so anyone else interested, please let me know as soon as possible. i will do it all in one go but dont want to keep doing it as my server is slow with images, and there are many of them.

[MABAGANI]

Count me in, thanks.

[B.I]

Count me in, thanks.

hi mabagani,
please either email or PM me your email address.

[Marc]

I would like it, also, if possible.
Thank you.

[Alam Shah]

B.I., I've already PMed with no response. Just to be clear...count me in (again). :D
Thank you for responding...;)

[Raja Muda]

Forget me not. It would be interesting to share this with the other Malaysian collectors.

[Bill]

I already PM you also, Thanks. Please put title, so it stands out.

[RobT]

Hi,
I would also like to get this material.
Sincerely,
RobT

[Battara]

O :D O, O :D O - Me t :) :) , Me t :) :) !

[Andrew]

Hi Brian. One for me, as well, please. :)

[B.I]

hi andrew,
i was going to send it to you anyway, whether you were interested or not :-)

rob t and battara - please send your email addresses. i will try to do it later today, as i am away for the weekend.

[B.I]

hi,
the article has been sent to everyone that sent me their email addresses. i sent 6 emails, each with 5 images and totaling just over 6mb. if you havent recieved it then it may have bounced back because of the size (surely not in this day and age).
i hope it is of some use, and i look forward to reading any potential post that it may provoke.

[ariel]

I have PM-ed you already, but "forget-me-not", please!

[B.I]

I have PM-ed you already, but "forget-me-not", please!

i think yours was the first on the list. hopefully you should be reading it by now.

[wolviex]

I already have this article in my inbox

Thank you very much! :)

[nechesh]

Brian, as i expressed in my e-mail to you, YOU ROCK DUDE! I look forward to reading these when i get home. Thanks again. :)

[Bill]

Thanks, received, I'm sure it was a lot of work.

[MABAGANI]

Thanks B.I., appreciate it...

[MABAGANI]

That was a fantastic read, much to digest so I need to print and reread several times. Reference is great for the previous thread on keris to kris evolution, and everything from early trade, metal, silat, swords, etc. in Southeast Asia.

[Alam Shah]

Thanks, a lot. :D A nice read. I'm converting to PDF for easier distribution (amongst friends). I'll send it to you. ;)

[Marc]

I got it also, without problems. Thank you VERY much.

[Raja Muda]

Thank you very much for the article. I believe the circle of keris enthusiasts here will find it an extremely interesting read. This is the beautiful thing about this forum, as much as we have our occasional flare ups and differences of opinion, there is still plenty of room for sharing and exchanging knowledge. That us until someone tampers with the king's peace again :)

[ariel]

I got mine and sent you a personal note.
However, service like that should be acknowledged publicly:


THANKS A LOT!!!!!

[Andrew]

Many thanks, Brian! :)

[BSMStar]

Is it possible for me to sign up? :)

[RobT]

BI,
Belated thanks for the article (I was off line due to a computer upgrade). I have downloaded the article to my desktop but so far have read only the first page. From that I assume it will be great.
Sincerely,
RobT

[drdavid]

Hi B.I.
thanks for sending these on. They are a very interesting set of articles and cover all sorts of issues I was curious about. Lots of good karma to you. ;)
cheers
D

[Battara]

Wonderful puppy - Maraming Salamat! :D