View Full Version : Do you know what this is?
Alan62
8th January 2006, 01:43 AM
Probably a just souvineir type knife,but does anyone recognize from where?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/Alan62/Knife64001.jpg
nechesh
8th January 2006, 03:55 PM
I think it is an African souvineir knife, but this is not my area and i'm not sure what region of Africa it might come from.
Dom
8th January 2006, 06:31 PM
Hi
the blade decor could be Mali or Niger, Sub-Saharian
à +
Dom
Loï bo Tuareg
http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/1008/lobotuareg9ne.th.jpg (http://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lobotuareg9ne.jpg)
Zan
8th January 2006, 07:43 PM
Hi everybody,
I agree with Dom that it is probably a sub-saharean knife.
The scabbard looks Bambara to me (it is the dominant ethnic group of Mali, particularly around Bamako). I dont know from the picture if the blade is a traditional forged-one or simply made from spring steel, like a lot of the tourist-made knifes and swords from the region.
But for sure, this knife was crafted with a traditional aesthetic in mind.
I will post some pictures soon.
Sincerely,
Zan
Zan
8th January 2006, 07:54 PM
This is a recently made knife from the small village of Sègué, Mali. In fact, it is was special order to the local blacksmith !
The blade as not been polished, but is very sharp. Most importantly, mens with a certain status in the village were wearing a similar knife still in 2003, so it is not a tourist-made knife.
The white stripes are realy made of plastic.
Zan
Zan
8th January 2006, 07:59 PM
This one is from a Bambara village near Ségou. It was the personal knife of one man in that village.
If the scabbard is newly made, the blade is quite old. And there is again those plastic white stripes.
Zan
Alan62
9th January 2006, 12:34 AM
Thank You all very much.
I found the one I bought at an antique store for 20 dollars.
I felt like it was worth at least that much just because of how well made the scabbard is.
it looks like this ones handle is a bone that has been covered in leather,but I am not sure
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/Alan62/Knife64007.jpg
Thanks Again for all the info
Alan
Freddy
9th January 2006, 07:47 AM
This one is probably from the same area as Zan's knives. It has a wooden handle with similar decorations. The blade is functional, yet crudely made. It has a leather sheath of different shape (without any tassels).
I like these simple knives. :) ...and they are mostly cheap, too :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/keris_hanuman/Afbeelding1662.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/keris_hanuman/Afbeelding1663.jpg
Freddy
Radu Transylvanicus
9th January 2006, 08:51 AM
This is a contemporary Dogon tribe knife from southern Mali, western Africa. Tourist market is flourishing with many of them ending in USA as souvenirs or “accent pieces”. Dogon people are more for famous for their skill in creating ceremonial masks than edged weaponry.
Zan
10th January 2006, 01:04 AM
Hi,
Radu is perfectly right : it is a typical Dogon knife. This fascinating tribe limited to Mali is one of the only in Western Africa with preserved way of life, traditions and belief. Most still live in simple villages the same way their ancestors do.
Their cosmology and their masks' society is much interesting and known, but there is almost nothing about their edged weapons. I have visited a Dogon museum in Mali where there was a saif and a Manding sword... from their enemys. It is a pacific tribe, wich was looking for unatteinable cliff edges to settle yo avoid conflicts. But they do have some interesting traditionnal utilitarian knifes.
I will soon post two typical Dogon knifes.
Zan
Zan
10th January 2006, 01:13 AM
This one was the personal knife of a seller in a small Dogon village. He had not a single knife to sell, so he sold is own.
Mens use to wear at least one of those tiny knifes. Older mens were seen with two or three of them, hanging from a leather bag. Each one has apparently is own utility.
It has the typical red and black triangular patterns on the scabbard, and a very simple double-edged blade (wich is now cleaned, don't worry!).
Zan
Zan
10th January 2006, 01:31 AM
This much more bigger knife represents the women's one. The handle depicts a women in the distinctive Dogon's style. The blade is also double-edged and of local origin.
Womens use this kind of knife to prepare food. One night when I was in another village, our pork meat supper has been prepared using a similar knife. It is a very impressive utilitarian knife in the experienced hands ;)
Sincerely,
Zan
Alan62
13th January 2006, 12:58 AM
Very Nice Knives Zan
Thank You for the information
Tim Simmons
13th January 2006, 07:14 AM
Really nice!!!
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.