Unknow flintlock military pistol austrian, german?

[Valjhun]

Hi,

Got offered this pistol recently. Maker marked but hard to read.

Anybody familiar with the type, model, provenience?

[Martin Lubojacky]

LHANDER ???

[Atlantia]

Looks like it says BRANDER to me.

[Norman McCormick]

Hi,
Here's a couple of photos from an old auction catalogue of the same type of Brander marked pistol, unfortunately there is no indication of the history of the item in the description. It will however let you see what a complete one should look like. It looks to me like a military issue weapon possibly Northern Europe but that's as far as I would care to speculate. Hope this is of some help.
My Regards,
Norman.

[Jim McDougall]

wonder if its the same Brander of Brander & Potts in England early 19th and during Napoleonic campaigns. Looks like a trade quality postol.

[Valjhun]

Thank you for your replies!

Norman, yes it is precisely same model.

wonder if its the same Brander of Brander & Potts in England early 19th and during Napoleonic campaigns. Looks like a trade quality postol.

Jim, yes I was thinking about the same. It would be just a guess, but it can be pistol that Brander made prior to join forces with Potts and becoming the famoys Brander&Potts? The signature seem more rude than the original factory signature by brander&pots, so it could be earlier or perhaps a period copied.The first model by B&P that I can find is the m1796 british dragoon light pistol. So I'm wondering, is it possible that the presented pistol dates back in 18th century? Is there any recorded history of Brander&Potts establishment and how they begin? Were they two different firms merging in B&P or it was established as B&P from the beginning?

[Pukka Bundook]

I think this is relatively new, The stock appears to be beech and I know of no original with the butt-section shaped like this. The lock is very crudely made with modern bent form of feather spring.
It reminds me strongly of some of the offerings being produced in the 1960's before reproduction muzzleloaders were made with any degree of authenticity.
Please pardon this somewhat blunt assesment, but can only say how it appears to me. :-)
I could elaborate further, but think I have made my case.

With very best wishes,
Richard.

[Valjhun]

Agree with you Pukka! I found out also that it is a repro, meant for target shooting with black powder. Thank you for giving me the doubt!

[Pukka Bundook]

You are most welcome Valjhun.

I dislike being the bearer of bad news, but would rather do so before a purchase is made, than afterwards!

[napoleon]

looks like BRANDER for sure.if the name is anything to go by german i would have said intersting thanks for sharing