Kris #1

[punal]

Provenance and age on this Kris please.

Swords Dimensions:
OAL: 23"
Blade: 19"
Width: 1 1/2"
Thickness: 1/4"

[punal]

Provenance and age on this Kris please?

Sword's Dimensions:
OAL: 27"
Blade: 22 1/2"
Blade width: 1 1/2
Thickness: 1/4 "

[Battara]

Punal, kris #1 I would say is Tausug and possibly around the early 1800s

Kris #2 I would guess as Maguinanao, but possibly the hilt may be post 1900.

[nechesh]

I tend to agree with you Jose on the hilt on #2. It looks like a really nice 20th century hilt. I wouldn't be surprised if it is fairly recent. I have seen quite a few nicely made new hilts on some old kris of late. Many of them have ivory kakatus that have been dyed for an aging effect. I think a lot of these old blades get rehilted specifically to increase their resale with new hilts that are made to look older.

[Bill]

I'd guess Tausug on the first one, the blade maybe 18C, maybe earlier. The second one looks like what Cato describes as "cross-over", so I would again just say Mindanao. The blade looks old, 1800? At least some of the work on the hilt looks to be recient, at least after 1960.