Moro Kris

[punal]

Moro Kris for comments please.

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Provenance and age please.

Thanks,
Punal

[nechesh]

If i might respectfully point out Punal, you are looking for quite a bit of information about a number of swords based on rather vague photographs. Might i suggest that in order to avoid confusion and be able to provide more accurate information that you present these blades one at a time with better, more detailed photographs. I can tell you that the next to last one in the group photo (L to R) looks to be an example of what are sometimes referred to as "archaic" style keris that Cato assumed were 18th century swords.
BTW, the nature of the word provenance makes it somewhat difficult for any of us to provide for you. Provenance generally comes along with the piece itself. It might be an inscription of presentation on the sheath, a date engraved on the blade or a letter that supports the origin of the object. Something that proves date or origin. That would be very difficult for any of us to provde. :)

[punal]

If i might respectfully point out Punal, you are looking for quite a bit of information about a number of swords based on rather vague photographs. Might i suggest that in order to avoid confusion and be able to provide more accurate information that you present these blades one at a time with better, more detailed photographs. I can tell you that the next to last one in the group photo (L to R) looks to be an example of what are sometimes referred to as "archaic" style keris that Cato assumed were 18th century swords.
BTW, the nature of the word provenance makes it somewhat difficult for any of us to provide for you. Provenance generally comes along with the piece itself. It might be an inscription of presentation on the sheath, a date engraved on the blade or a letter that supports the origin of the object. Something that proves date or origin. That would be very difficult for any of us to provde. :)

You're right Nechesh.
I am revising the whole thing, thanks.

[Ian]

Punal:

Nice kris. Better images would certainly be helpful.

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Ian.

[Alam Shah]

Congratulations. :) This blade looks awesome.
Looks 19th C to me.

[zamboanga]

Nice kris kabayan. I understand it has no scabbard?

[MABAGANI]

If I recall correctly before the revisions, they were all Tausug except for the one with the rounded pommel which was Maranao.
The first kris I'd call Tausug, mid 17th century, imho.

[kai]

Congrats for getting this really nice piece, Punal! I reckon you already gave it a light etch? (I didn't saw hints of the gorgeous pattern welding on the ebay pics although I expected it to be hidden by the polishing...)

I remember the blade was pretty long for an archaic kris - about 20"? What's the collected wisdom of the forumites - does this hint at a somewhat later piece (like second half of 18th c.) or how much do blade lengths vary already earlier in this period?


BTW, don't forget to put those other kris back online in separate threads - I'd love to see them, too!

Regards,
Kai

[punal]

Kai,
You're right the blade's length is 20", and no, I haven't touch the blade yet!
Still trying to figure out what type of etching solution to use. I also re-posted the swords that I deleted yesterday. I hope it's o.k.


Zamboanga,
Kumusta kabayan? yes, this kris did not have a scabbard, it would have been nice if it came w/ one.

[kai]

Hi Punal,

Still trying to figure out what type of etching solution to use.
You could try brushing it with a little lime juice (neutralize by carefully rubbing with a baking soka slurry afterwards and oil well). However, the blade is in pretty good shape and I'd think thrice before working on it at all!

I also re-posted the swords that I deleted yesterday.
Thanks, keep them coming! :D

Regards,
Kai