MORO/MALAY SWORD - SUNDANG

[mykeris]

sharing this sword with you all,Blade length From Ganja to blade end 21 inches... happy viewing...Mykeris :)

[David]

I'd say Malay, not Moro...

[Sajen]

I'd say Malay, not Moro...


Agree! What are the spots on the blade?

[mykeris]

thanks David, I thought so but unfortunately unable to identify its real country of origin, appreciate if someone could help. I took almost a week to remove the 'stubborn' rust. Sajen: the spots were remains of lime juice when performing the finishing. I purposely let some remains of 'weak' rust on the blade to show' 'feel" and age.

[David]

thanks David, I thought so but unfortunately unable to identify its real country of origin, appreciate if someone could help. I took almost a week to remove the 'stubborn' rust. Sajen: the spots were remains of lime juice when performing the finishing. I purposely let some remains of 'weak' rust on the blade to show' 'feel" and age.
I would strongly suggest the removal of ALL rust. :shrug: :)

[mykeris]

Yes David, thats very wise. :)

[Battara]

I agree with the Malay attribution. Interesting copper hilt.

[Indianajones]

Hi all, the blade may be made corrosionless at the moment, but do 'we' find the blade nice as it is? Personally I find it a moonlandscape and it was probably put in very strong acid to have this pitting; better to have some brown old ruststains her n there than this . . . .result. :shrug:

Polishing it again -quite a job- would be the only solution to lift its beauty up to some extention is my very personal opinion.
Am probably the only one thinking this way, but I just got so very sad when seeing this piece!
Greets

[Sajen]

Hi all, the blade may be made corrosionless at the moment, but do 'we' find the blade nice as it is? Personally I find it a moonlandscape and it was probably put in very strong acid to have this pitting; better to have some brown old ruststains her n there than this . . . .result. :shrug:

Polishing it again -quite a job- would be the only solution to lift its beauty up to some extention is my very personal opinion.
Am probably the only one thinking this way, but I just got so very sad when seeing this piece!
Greets


Hi Wouter,

I think that Mykeris has cleaned the blade with pressed lemon juice and that the surface of the blade has been already before not smooth since lemon juice isn't a strong acid. But agree with you that polishing would be indicated.

Regards,

Detlef

[mykeris]

Initially, the blade was full of thick rust al over . I used a lot of coconut juices to weaken the rust. Those moon surfaces were caused by the horibble rust due to years of intimate existence over the blade. The lime juices were used just to clean up and and add a whitish finishing effect to the surface of the blade. I hope everything will look ok when the blade is stained using old sour coconut water. The effect of this will be a brownish color blade just like what we see on old Malay blades. No acid or WARANGAN will be used for this purpose. I am planning to clear all rusts as advised by David to avoid future 'mooning' of the surface. Really appreciate all your views and advice. .... :)

[Sajen]

Initially, the blade was full of thick rust al over . I used a lot of coconut juices to weaken the rust. Those moon surfaces were caused by the horibble rust due to years of intimate existence over the blade. The lime juices were used just to clean up and and add a whitish finishing effect to the surface of the blade. I hope everything will look ok when the blade is stained using old sour coconut water. The effect of this will be a brownish color blade just like what we see on old Malay blades. No acid or WARANGAN will be used for this purpose. I am planning to clear all rusts as advised by David to avoid future 'mooning' of the surface. Really appreciate all your views and advice. .... :)

Understand now. ;) Agree to remove all rust but think a little bit polish also wouldn't be wrong before etching with sour coconut water.
Please keep us updated with this blade. Can you show us pictures from the scabbard?

Regards,

Detlef

[mykeris]

Sundang blade before cleaning and after cleaning. No scabbard Detlef..will find one. :)

[CharlesS]

I agree with the Malay sundang attribution...I'm even wondering if at some point the blade was acid washed like a keris.

[mykeris]

Final Finishing, appreciate if somebody could guess country of its origin: malay Riau? malay Sulawesi? perhaps Malay Patani..? Could we term it as a Malay Sudang Malela? I dont think so because its criteria differs of a Malela. Perhaps a Sundang Carita Blade due to its triple fullers from its base to blade end. It will be great if someone could post some samples which are similiar or almost similar for comparative purposes. tq in advance.. :) my keris.