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junker
19th February 2012, 05:19 PM
Hi,
this one i caught some years ago and i am nearly sure that this is no hilt for a keris.
But what for is t and where does it come from ?
It seems to be made from bone not from ivory.

best regards
Dirk
Sajen
19th February 2012, 06:44 PM
Hello Dirk,

could be a hilt for a plococan, betel crusher. And yes, it is from some sort of bone or deer horn. Look like balinese or lombok origin.

Regards,

Detlef
Henk
19th February 2012, 09:49 PM
I would say kerishilt. Why do you think it isn't an ukiran?
Battara
20th February 2012, 02:58 PM
I'm with Sajen - Bali or Lombok.
Jean
20th February 2012, 04:52 PM
It could be a dagger hilt also, look at this one. What is its size?
Regards
GIO
20th February 2012, 06:12 PM
Definitely keris or indonesian dagger hilt IMO
David
20th February 2012, 07:15 PM
I am inclined to see this as a keris hilt mostly because it is made to accommodate a round tang and has a shape consistent with keris hilts. I do think it might be a fairly recent creation though that has been conditioned to look older. :shrug:
ivoke
21st February 2012, 09:10 AM
a better photo of the discoloration on the bottom could give a clue if it was made by a mendak.
junker
21st February 2012, 07:36 PM
Hi,
thank you for your answers.
The size is 10 cm.
I dont thougt of a keris hilt because i fount no example in the book of Zonnefeld.
And here is a better photo.
Thanks for your help

best regards
Dirk
Henk
22nd February 2012, 03:19 PM
Definitely an ukiran.

You cann't find all ukirans in books. Books are limited in showing ukiran. The fantasy of carvers not.
GIO
23rd February 2012, 03:19 PM
The general aspect of the hilt could bring to a betel crusher's hilt, but these have a somewhat square and smaller peg hole. This peg hole is no doubt that of a kris. Could be that a betel crusher's hilt has been adapted to fit a kris tang, widening the hole.
I happened to see betel crushers with kris hilt (planar type): the contrary cannot be excluded.
junker
10th March 2012, 03:30 PM
Hi GIO,

Yes every thing is possible.
BTW I got an example of a figural tool hilt in my collection as well.
Here it is.
It came with the hilt we have discussed allready.
junker
10th March 2012, 03:32 PM
sorry,
length is 18 cm the whole tool and 8 cm only the hilt
Sajen
10th March 2012, 04:41 PM
sorry,
length is 18 cm the whole tool and 8 cm only the hilt


This is a plocokan, a betel crusher, most proable from Lombok! :)

Regards,

Detlef