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Martin Lubojacky
22nd August 2011, 10:53 PM
But are the really Afar ? Both the sword and daggers are comming from, or better said were bought in Ethiopia. Their assignation is comming from local trades and is not
Martin Lubojacky
22nd August 2011, 11:10 PM
....and I think is not verified: Any opinion is warm welcome.
No 1 is so called "jelly". It is big sword, the length is 95 cms, the blade is nice, heavy. Handle is made of nice hard wood.
No 2 (bought in Abuja) and 3 (bought in Djibouti, 63 cms long) are very slender, the pommel is made of wood (in one piece with handle) - not of brass. I was told they were Issa or Darod (i.e. Somali sub-clans).
No 4 and 5 - both comming from Fentale Hot Springs (within Awash National Parc) - they should be Kereyu (i. e. Oromo sub-clan).
No 6 - allegedly real Afar (finaly...)
No 7 - allegedly again real (chief) Afar ?
No 8 - this is very nice and must be very effective and dangerous weapon, it is hefty, with the blade thick and (up to) 7 cms broad. But again - is it Afar - I was told Oromo...
Regards,
Martin
Martin Lubojacky
22nd August 2011, 11:14 PM
Another photos
Martin Lubojacky
22nd August 2011, 11:22 PM
The length of No 3 is 71 (not 63) cms
asomotif
22nd August 2011, 11:32 PM
Hello Martin,
Sorry, can't help you out on the tribe(s).
But what a nice collection.
No. 8 is great. Is the hilt rhino ?
Best regards,
Willem
spiral
23rd August 2011, 12:36 AM
Excelent collection Martin! only ever had 2 of these in last 15 years....
Hello Martin,.
No. 8 is great. Is the hilt rhino ?
O yes 100% for sure even from photo....
Rhino all the way.
Spiral
Martin Lubojacky
23rd August 2011, 09:18 AM
Thank you. I am afraid it is Rhino - they used to equip this kind of big daggers or better heavy short sabres with such hilts...But I think these still are not representing all versions of knives and cold weapons from Ogaden, Danakil Depression and bordering areas. Was this typology subject of some discourse/book ?
colin henshaw
23rd August 2011, 11:36 AM
I've read about some of these type of knives being collected by Wilfred Thesiger, described as being Afar (Danakil). But as is often the case in Africa the form probably spreads to neighbouring areas/tribes.
ariel
23rd August 2011, 12:12 PM
Obviously, there are multiple variations, but do they represent stable ethnic/geographic patterns or just random results of manufacturer's techniques and buyer's wishes? If the former, - typological study is in order, if the latter, - they are just one happy chaotic family.
Martin Lubojacky
23rd August 2011, 02:42 PM
I inclined to believe there was both tribal (sub-tribal) and even holderīs position classification of this weapons
Atlantia
23rd August 2011, 07:12 PM
Don't think I've ever seen so many good examples together Martin. That must have taken some effort to acomplish, well done.
Best
Gene
Rick
23rd August 2011, 09:11 PM
Indeed, Number 7 awakens lust and envy in my heart . ;) :)
Tim Simmons
29th August 2011, 07:54 PM
The blanket is very nice.
Freddy
29th August 2011, 08:26 PM
Here's a warrior with a similar dagger/sword.
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