Kindjal (translation needs)

[Hara_morin]

please help me with this nice blade :)

[Atlantia]

It Looks like there may be a date (with other characters either end and above) I see 1347 which is 1928 gregorian if it is a date.

[Norman McCormick]

Hi Guys,
My guess is 1327 which would be 1909 but there is a character after what might be a date and I'm not sure as to the meaning.
Regards,
Norman.

[Atlantia]

Hi Guys,
My guess is 1327 which would be 1909 but there is a character after what might be a date and I'm not sure as to the meaning.
Regards,
Norman.


LOL, at least we're both seeing it as a date ;)

Looks like a persian/farsi '4' to me, but the character at the end is a mystery!

:)
Best
Gene

[Norman McCormick]

LOL, at least we're both seeing it as a date ;)

Looks like a persian/farsi '4' to me, but the character at the end is a mystery!

:)
Best
Gene

Hi Gene,
Could be! could be! :confused:
Regards,
Norman. :)

[Hara_morin]

Gene, Norman, thanks a lot! there is only year? no makers name?

[Atlantia]

Gene, Norman, thanks a lot! there is only year? no makers name?


I only have a chance with dates. I can try and get the rest translated, but I will have to share your photos if thats OK?

[Hara_morin]

no problem, will be fine!

[Atlantia]

no problem, will be fine!

OK, I've done that.
I'll let you know as soon as (and if) I get a reply.
Best
Gene

[Hara_morin]

it seems only readable date on this kindjal

[Atlantia]

it seems only readable date on this kindjal

I'm suprised that nobody has translated it yet. Could it be that the other characters are in a more obscure language.

Have a look at Georgian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asomtavruli) and see if you can see any similarities:

[A.alnakkas]

hmm these inscriptions on Kindjals are really hard to read. All i can read is the first word (right to left) and it is عمل Amal which means : work of. Even so it doesnt make full sense because its either damaged or means something else entirely since there is a space between the letter Ma and la which could be just loss to the inscription.

The 2nd word which might be a name i find it very hard to read.

The date could be 1337 if the 3rd number (left to right) has inscription loss.

[Atlantia]

hmm these inscriptions on Kindjals are really hard to read. All i can read is the first word (right to left) and it is عمل Amal which means : work of. Even so it doesnt make full sense because its either damaged or means something else entirely since there is a space between the letter Ma and la which could be just loss to the inscription.

The 2nd word which might be a name i find it very hard to read.

The date could be 1337 if the 3rd number (left to right) has inscription loss.


Well thats three possibilities for the date now: 1327, 1337, 1347.

Do you think the language IS arabic?

[Dom]

hmm these inscriptions on Kindjals are really hard to read. All i can read is the first word (right to left) and it is عمل Amal which means : work of. Even so it doesnt make full sense because its either damaged or means something else entirely since there is a space between the letter Ma and la which could be just loss to the inscription.

The 2nd word which might be a name i find it very hard to read.

The date could be 1337 if the 3rd number (left to right) has inscription loss.Hi Lotfi
you are nearly :D
our point of view could be:
AMAL MAGUIB either MADE BY MAGUIB
the date is clear 1327 no doubt ... :p

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Dom

[Hara_morin]

many thanks!

[Atlantia]

yay! Dom to the rescue :)

[A.alnakkas]

Dont want to be the party pooper but i really doubt its Maguib.

The word is formed from the following letters : Meem Jeem ba'a ba'a (maybe Ha'a at the end)

The closest readable word i can get from this is Mujabab and it makes no sense to me.

[Atlantia]

Had a reply 'elsewhere' to the request from back a ways....

Michael came up with this:
"It reads "work of Mohamed something" and the date of 1327 which is 1948"

[A.alnakkas]

No way its Mohammed.

Mohammed in arabic = محمد

This word is something like مجببة

[Norman McCormick]

Had a reply 'elsewhere' to the request from back a ways....

Michael came up with this:
"It reads "work of Mohamed something" and the date of 1327 which is 1948"

Hi,
1327 A.H. = 1909 A.D. [1327 X 0.97 + 622 = 1909 ]
Regards,
Norman.

[Atlantia]

Hi,
1327 A.H. = 1909 A.D. [1327 X 0.97 + 622 = 1909 ]
Regards,
Norman.


LOL, yeah I know. ;)

[Atlantia]

Ms Rahill over at SFI has joined the fray.
She sees the date as 1347 (as I do)
LOL, just to confuse the issue!

[katana]

Hi Dom :) ,
could you please empty your 'Private Messages' ....it is full and I cannot PM you, thank you.

Sorry Gentlemen for jumping into the thread....but I needed to contact Dom....apologies

Kind Regards David

[Dom]

Ms Rahill over at SFI has joined the fray.
She sees the date as 1347 (as I do)
LOL, just to confuse the issue!

it's me ... who am confused :o
I'm bad :(
(because I have been able to determine that it was written ... in FARSI)

the proof (digit in Farsi)
۰ ۱ ۲ ۳ ۴ ۵ ۶ ۷ ۸ ۹ ۱۰
0...1...2...3...4.....5...6...7...8...9...10

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Dom

[Atlantia]

it's me ... who am confused :o
I'm bad :(
(because I have been able to determine that it was written ... in FARSI)

the proof (digit in Farsi)
۰ ۱ ۲ ۳ ۴ ۵ ۶ ۷ ۸ ۹ ۱۰
0...1...2...3...4.....5...6...7...8...9...10

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Dom


LOL, thats what I initially thought (see post #4)

[Dom]

LOL, thats what I initially thought (see post #4)yeap ... just affirmation without bring argument :p
(yes, I know I'm in bad faith ...) http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1336/tonguepr.gif (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/tonguepr.gif/)

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Dom

[Atlantia]

yeap ... just affirmation without bring argument :p
(yes, I know I'm in bad faith ...) http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1336/tonguepr.gif (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/tonguepr.gif/)

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Dom

Of course you're not bad Dom!
You are lovely! :D



For me, it's just nice to be right for a change ;)