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Atlantia
26th February 2011, 04:10 PM
Hi all
Here's my latest find, it's quite long (haven't got a measure to hand, but must be a little over 30cm)
Seems strangely familiar

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10653.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10649.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10656.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10651.jpg
fernando
26th February 2011, 06:02 PM
Hi Gene,
This would be a Brazilian 'faca de ponta'. Search for this term in this very forum and you will find a few threads discussing these knives typology.
The stamp 'O CABOCLO' is the name of the traditional Brazilian peasant mestiço person.
You may as well post a close up of the other mark; potentially the seal of some known Brazilian cuttlery; or some foreign (German?) exporter to Brazil.
kronckew
26th February 2011, 06:44 PM
nice one! mine is a bit shorter at 25 cm. - i like it. slim and deadly.
Atlantia
26th February 2011, 09:44 PM
Hi Gents,
Excellent thank you.
Length is 13-1/2" or 34cm.

Blade is sharp and very sturdy, non-plated, extremely well made and functional. Handle is horn and I assume bone.
Strangely I saw a small (very late) commercial one at the fair also, with the blade etched to read 'The High Life'.

It feels later 19th century. Would that be correct?

The makers mark on the other side is a bit indistinct and the staining is right where it's lightly struck.
It reads:
W&G **OGEL

ELB***ELD (4th letter is either E or L)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10658.jpg
Atlantia
26th February 2011, 10:20 PM
nice one! mine is a bit shorter at 25 cm. - i like it. slim and deadly.



LOL, just realised "faca de ponta" means "A pointed Knife"
ingelred
26th February 2011, 11:46 PM
Hi,

Elberfeld is indeed Germany.
The name may be W&G VOGEL.
Vogel is not uncomman as a family name in Germany.

Best regards
Atlantia
27th February 2011, 09:34 AM
Hi,

Elberfeld is indeed Germany.
The name may be W&G VOGEL.
Vogel is not uncomman as a family name in Germany.

Best regards


Thank you Ingelred.
You are right :)
I've done a search and a list of cutelrs marks has 'W&G VOGEL ELBERFELD' as being 1899, so that seems a good start :)
Thank you again
Gene
Chris Evans
28th February 2011, 06:29 AM
Hi Folks,

For some images re this type of knife, albeit from an old film about Lampiao: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8RWSw25KKk&feature=related

Lampiao was a famous outlaw and a brief description of his life can be seen here: http://www.timsparks.com/articles/lampiao.html

Cheers
Chris
Atlantia
28th February 2011, 08:15 AM
Hi Folks,

For some images re this type of knife, albeit from an old film about Lampiao: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8RWSw25KKk&feature=related

Lampiao was a famous outlaw and a brief description of his life can be seen here: http://www.timsparks.com/articles/lampiao.html

Cheers
Chris


Very interesting, thanks Chris :)

Best
Gene