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Atlantia
15th February 2011, 02:27 PM
I'll let the pictures do the talking. All I've had time to do so far is clean the surface rust off of the beautiful blade.
Well, to start with ;)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10560a.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10564.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10565.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10567.jpg
kronckew
15th February 2011, 03:21 PM
nice dui chirra (two fullers) khukuri, nepali 'armoury' crescent marking above the cho/kaudi is normally a generic military mark. mine with same mark is early 20th c. (see attached)
somebody with a bit of money & status owned yours & it's in good shape after cleaning. good find :)
i just noticed the karda (small utility knife) appears to match the main blade, tho the chakmak (sharpening steel) appears a later replacement...
Atlantia
15th February 2011, 05:36 PM
nice dui chirra (two fullers) khukuri, nepali 'armoury' crescent marking above the cho/kaudi is normally a generic military mark. mine with same mark is early 20th c. (see attached)
somebody with a bit of money & status owned yours & it's in good shape after cleaning. good find :)
i just noticed the karda (small utility knife) appears to match the main blade, tho the chakmak (sharpening steel) appears a later replacement...
Hello Matey!
Well, thats good news :) its not a touristy one for a change ;)
I'll make it a matching chakmak as it seems like its worthwhile restoring it.
You're absolutely right that the one with it is a modern replacement.
I'm pleased with the blade, it's the type I've always admired.
I'm a little weirded out by the hilt. I thought there were areas of missing inlay, but the horn is actually carved so can't have had metal over it unless it was tinfoil!
The scabbard leather is typically dry and brittle with splits etc.
Here's a close up of the silver mount:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/SDC10560.jpg
Best
Gene
spiral
16th February 2011, 09:36 AM
Nice find Gene! Probably c.1910 to c.1930 era, Officer presentation quality dia chirra {double fullers.} with crescent mark.
Foil silver probably has been lost, {probably because it was so thin!} so has kardas silver buttcap. Unfortuantly the chape as well. This often come lose over the years & get placed on other kukris in the collection or dealers stock when they come to be sold. On occasion Ive had to buy 2 kukris at auction to put them back together as they should be.
The Silver scabbard top is unusual in workmanship & style.{ In a good way.} Looks to be pinned in place? Blade workmanship looks excelent! What size is it?
Spiral
Atlantia
18th February 2011, 08:31 AM
Nice find Gene! Probably c.1910 to c.1930 era, Officer presentation quality dia chirra {double fullers.} with crescent mark.
Foil silver probably has been lost, {probably because it was so thin!} so has kardas silver buttcap. Unfortuantly the chape as well. This often come lose over the years & get placed on other kukris in the collection or dealers stock when they come to be sold. On occasion Ive had to buy 2 kukris at auction to put them back together as they should be.
The Silver scabbard top is unusual in workmanship & style.{ In a good way.} Looks to be pinned in place? Blade workmanship looks excelent! What size is it?
Spiral
'Sup' J?
Thanks bud :)
You're completely right mate, now I've had a chance to examine the 'carved areas' in good daylight, I can see that they are actually the remains of black resin used to hold in the missing repousse panels. The panels have fallen out but the blace resin is left in a perfect impression of the shape.
God knows where the hell I am going to get replacements! :(
Length: blade 12", overall 16 1/2".
Best
Gene
Titus Pullo
18th February 2011, 02:51 PM
What's the curve in the blade for anyway? I thought the effectiveness of the cut is mostly due to the mass of the blade. I think the straight one cut better because I accurately determine where the edge is going to cut.
kronckew
18th February 2011, 05:02 PM
the curved blade, like a scimitar produces a smaller contact point, thus increasing the force at that point as the force is spread over a smaller area. it produces a slicing effect, an automatic draw cut.
think guillotine (a gory example) the initial models had a straight across blade edge, they found it did not produce a clean cut, so the edge of the blade was angled to produce the clean slicing action required.
it's like the french vs. the english in the peninsula wars, the french preferred straight swords for their cavalry, the eglish used the 1796 LC sabre with it's curved edge. the french complained about the horrible injuries it produced compared to theirs.
Atlantia
18th February 2011, 06:42 PM
What's the curve in the blade for anyway? I thought the effectiveness of the cut is mostly due to the mass of the blade. I think the straight one cut better because I accurately determine where the edge is going to cut.
Hi Titus
The Gurkha are known for being able to behead a man with a single downward stroke of their Kukri.
Regards
Gene
Titus Pullo
18th February 2011, 10:33 PM
Thank you for clearing that up! But I still think if the mass is even distributed throughout the blade it could do far more damage.... I don't know.... I just taking a shot at this! [chuckle] :o
spiral
19th February 2011, 11:21 AM
Titus I have to agree with your statment... "I don't know...." ;)
If you cut enough things including wood or flesh you will find an angled blade cuts more efficeintly than a straight one.This is prooved in physics & in actuality of use. With A little internet research should find you the exact mathematical evidence of this. It not a matter of though or opinion its is proved scientific fact.
Spiral
mross
23rd February 2011, 10:00 PM
Well, Jose does excellent silver work, maybe he has some ideas.
'Sup' J?
Thanks bud :)
You're completely right mate, now I've had a chance to examine the 'carved areas' in good daylight, I can see that they are actually the remains of black resin used to hold in the missing repousse panels. The panels have fallen out but the blace resin is left in a perfect impression of the shape.
God knows where the hell I am going to get replacements! :(
Length: blade 12", overall 16 1/2".
Best
Gene
Atlantia
24th February 2011, 06:16 PM
Well, Jose does excellent silver work, maybe he has some ideas.
Hi Mross,
Jose: Battara?
Hmmm, ;)
mross
24th February 2011, 07:43 PM
Hi Mross,
Jose: Battara?
Hmmm, ;)
YUP :)
Robert
24th February 2011, 07:52 PM
Calling Doctor Jose, you've got a patient waiting!!:D
Atlantia
24th February 2011, 08:55 PM
LOL, thank you gentlemen, lets see what the 'doctor' says?
Atlantia
24th February 2011, 08:58 PM
Thank you for clearing that up! But I still think if the mass is even distributed throughout the blade it could do far more damage.... I don't know.... I just taking a shot at this! [chuckle] :o
Have you looked at the cut tests on youtube using various sword types?
For instance, the effectiveness of the curved blade in a stab.
Quite an eye opener!
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