What do I have?

[BBJW]

I just picked this up. These are not in my sphere of collecting. What do I have? Scabbard is dated 1946 with some Arabic script under it.

Cheers
bbjw

[Jussi M.]

Umm, a keris???

Sorry, could not resist myself :p

Unfortunately I am no well versed enough to tag it but I do like it.

So, what are we looking at here folks?

Thanks,

J.

[Rick]

C'mon ....

Take a guess Jussi . :)

[Jussi M.]

C'mon ....

Take a guess Jussi . :)

Ok... It is a... nice keris???

Yes! :D

OK... I really am guessing here so take the following suggestion as that: I see a Yogyakarta dressed Javanese keris Betok.

Thanks,

J.

[David]

OK... I really am guessing here so take the following suggestion as that: I see a Yogyakarta dressed Javanese keris Betok.
I don't this this is a keris betok.... :shrug:

[Rick]

Might this be a kebo lajer ? :confused:



In Yogya dress . ;)

[BBJW]

Nobody cares to be serious here? Terrific.

bbjw

[Jussi M.]

Nobody cares to be serious here? Terrific.

bbjw

A little humor goes a long way. As of my bet I probably got it (read did get it) wrong and Rick most probably got it right. Them Kerises are not - to include most people frequenting this place myself very much included - necessarily easy to tag compared in contrast to many other forms of ethnographic bladed weaponry.

Sorry If I offended some how. That I assure you was not my purpose.

What ever this keris might be labeled as it is a nice one. That´s what counts.

Thanks,

J.

[A. G. Maisey]

BBJW, I can be very serious, and if you feel that you would prefer this approach, I can provide it. However, I almost never adopt this posture, because it frequently offends.

The people who have contributed to this thread have done so in a relaxed way, and probably have acted so because they like the ongoing conversation.

Be patient. You'll get what you want eventually, and it will be provided without my rough edges.

[VANDOO]

I AM NOT KNOWLEGABLE ENOUGH TO GUESS BUT WOULD LIKE TO SEE A GOOD CLOSE UP OF THE DESIGN AND WRITEING ON THE SCABBARD. IT MAY GIVE SOME VALUABLE IDENTIFICATION AS TO WHERE IT COMES FROM AND ITS HISTORY. SOME CLOSEUPS OF THE BLADE WOULD HELP ID PARMOR, AGE AND COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
EVEN THE EXPERTS CAN'T DO MUCH WHEN WORKING IN THE DARK. GOOD LUCK :)

[David]

Nobody cares to be serious here? Terrific.

bbjw
Actually, aside from some opening kidding you have indeed had a couple of serious answers, though i believe one was incorrect and suggested as much.
So far the Yogyakarta dress part is correct, and the sheath is Ladrang, which is the formal dress.
The gandik does seem a tad on the long size so Rick may well be correct to call this dhapur kebo lajer, though it doesn't seem as overtly long as many kebo keris i have seen.
The blade is out of stain so it is hard to name the pamor based on these photos, but it could be a standard "scattered rice" (wos wutah) pattern. Looks like average village work to me.
Maybe if you made you questions more specific you would receive more specific answers.
Better, closer images might tell more. What exactly do you want to know?
:)

[Rick]

I would add that being village work (this is not a bad thing necessarily) .......... Sometimes the smith's intent of the dhapur form can be interpreted in more than one way; that's why I followed my guess with a question mark .

More, I cannot answer . :shrug:

[David]

I would add that being village work (this is not a bad thing necessarily) .......... Sometimes the smith's intent of the dhapur form can be interpreted in more than one way; that's why I followed my guess with a question mark .

More, I cannot answer . :shrug:
Not at all Rick, i like village work...It accounts for the vast majority of my collection... :)
...and i'm not counting out your guess as a possibility...

[David]

Forgive me BBJW, but isn't this the same keris that you posted back in 2007? :confused:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4158

[Sajen]

Forgive me BBJW, but isn't this the same keris that you posted back in 2007? :confused:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4158

It is the same keris when my eyes not morbid. :D
And BBJW get a very comprehensive answer from Alan G. Maisey. But BBJW may want to know more? :shrug: Maybe he can specify his question.

[BBJW]

Forgive me BBJW, but isn't this the same keris that you posted back in 2007? :confused:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4158

Yes it is and I forgot to put a tag on it. I didn't mean to imply that I recently purchased this. I was just getting pieces ready to sell that I have picked up over the years that don't really interest me and still couldn't pass up at the time. Collecting can be a disease!

Thanx
bbjw

[David]

Collecting can be a disease!
What do you mean, CAN be? :D