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Marcokeris
11th December 2010, 02:45 PM
Please what do you think about this hit : Java or Bali?
I think Java but....not shure :confused:
Sajen
11th December 2010, 03:10 PM
My first guess would be Bali. :shrug: How high is this hilt?
Marcokeris
11th December 2010, 04:13 PM
My first guess would be Bali. :shrug: How high is this hilt?
10 cm
David
11th December 2010, 04:21 PM
Cool hilt! :cool:
It'd also say Bali...of maybe Lombok.
Battara
11th December 2010, 05:36 PM
Oh yes Bali (or Lombak) for sure. The figure is a demon of some kind based on the fangs and finger nails.
Jean
11th December 2010, 05:56 PM
Hello Marco,
Nice and uncommon specimen, is it old or artificially aged? I am not sure about the Balinese origin because of the size and absence of integrated selut.
Best regards
Jean
Marcokeris
11th December 2010, 06:18 PM
Hello Marco,
Nice and uncommon specimen, is it old or artificially aged? I am not sure about the Balinese origin because of the size and absence of integrated selut.
Best regards
Jean
The patina said me old. I think far east Java... but of course not sure. The seller told me it comes from java.
Jean
11th December 2010, 06:28 PM
The patina said me old. I think far east Java... but of course not sure. The seller told me it comes from java.
Hello Marco,
If it is old I would say East Java tip (in front of Bali) also.
Best regards
Jean
Marcokeris
11th December 2010, 06:30 PM
Hello Marco,
If it is old I would say East Java tip (in front of Bali) also.
Best regards
Jean
The same i think
Best regards
Sajen
12th December 2010, 03:36 PM
I have several Bali hilts which have a high of 10 cm or less and also a hilt which one don't have a integrated selut so I think that this isn't imperative a sign of a Java origin. But it is of course possible that it might be a hilt from east Java with strong Bali influence.
Regards,
Detlef
Jean
13th December 2010, 09:51 AM
I have several Bali hilts which have a high of 10 cm or less and also a hilt which one don't have a integrated selut so I think that this isn't imperative a sign of a Java origin. But it is of course possible that it might be a hilt from east Java with strong Bali influence.
Regards,
Detlef
The style of this hilt has a Balinese influence and I also have several Balinese hilts without selut or integrated selut but with a narrow base (rounded or truncated), this one seems to have a wide and flat base which does not match with a Balinese cincin? There is no visible trace of a former metal selut covering the base which would of course identify the hilt as Balinese, may be Marco could confirm?
Best regards
Jean
Marcokeris
13th December 2010, 03:04 PM
The style of this hilt has a Balinese influence and I also have several Balinese hilts without selut or integrated selut but with a narrow base (rounded or truncated), this one seems to have a wide and flat base which does not match with a Balinese cincin? There is no visible trace of a former metal selut covering the base which would of course identify the hilt as Balinese, may be Marco could confirm?
Best regards
Jean
Yes there is on trace of metal selut (or mendak ) at the base
tunggulametung
13th December 2010, 05:42 PM
The style of this hilt has a Balinese influence and I also have several Balinese hilts without selut or integrated selut but with a narrow base (rounded or truncated), this one seems to have a wide and flat base which does not match with a Balinese cincin? There is no visible trace of a former metal selut covering the base which would of course identify the hilt as Balinese, may be Marco could confirm?
Best regards
JeanGood point made by Jean. Although the figure and decorative is more 'appropriate' Balinese style, the execution on the base especially remind of Madura hilt. So I vote Java (Madura).
Jean
13th December 2010, 05:54 PM
Yes there is on trace of metal selut (or mendak ) at the base
If there was a selut fully covering the base or part of it, then the hilt is probably Balinese and the size is appropriate. But if it was just a mendak fitted under the base, it is a different situation...
Best regards
Jean
Marcokeris
13th December 2010, 09:14 PM
Yes there is on trace of metal selut (or mendak ) at the base
Sorry: ...Yes there is NOT trace....
Jean
14th December 2010, 08:48 AM
Yes there is on trace of metal selut (or mendak ) at the base
Sorry Marco, I wrongly understood ONE trace of metal selut.... Then I also vote for East Java or Madura as Chandra.
Best regards
Jean
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