Help with unknown item!

[Norman McCormick]

Hi Guys,
This item is available locally and is described as an 'Indo Persian dagger', for obvious reasons I assume the attribution is a mistake. Being totally ignorant in your field of interest I was wondering if you would care to take a 'stab' at describing what this particular weapon is. I see it as two unrelated pieces, blade and hilt, put together perhaps by and for a colonial European. The European style hilt looks to be of good quality but I have no parameters with which to judge the blade. This is the only available photograph at the moment. My apologies if I have inadvertently crossed any boundaries with regard to your Forum etiquette.
Regards,
Norman.
P.S. I am not looking for any monetary information regarding this item.

[David]

Norman, this item looks like a Javanese tombak to me with a dagger mount, something which is often done with these.
Since this forum is specifically for keris i am going to transfer this over to the main forum for discussion.
:)

[Norman McCormick]

Thanks David, just goes to prove I was right about my obvious lack of knowledge re this type of item.
My Regards,
Norman.

[Gavin Nugent]

Nice piece, the second such item of this type and quality that I have seen in as many months, the other having a bone and silver hilt....I'll see it I retained the images and post them...from memory it too was listed as Indo-Persian.....

Gav

[Henk]

David,

imho it doesn't look like but it is a javanese tombak. This type of hilt is very unusual for a tombak.

[Gavin Nugent]

David,

imho it doesn't look like but it is a javanese tombak. This type of hilt is very unusual for a tombak.

Very European, English or French put together...the hilt seems period era to the Tombok blade to me, maybe put together for Masonic regalia or something similar.

Gav

[Norman McCormick]

Hi,
If the hilt is European it looks late 18th early 19thC in style, would that tie in with the age of the blade?
Regards,
Norman.

[David]

David,

imho it doesn't look like but it is a javanese tombak. This type of hilt is very unusual for a tombak.
Well Henk, that is, of course, what i meant... :rolleyes: :)
Yes, let me second that...this is a Javanese tombak and to my eyes a rather nice one at that. :)

[asomotif]

Nice piece. Nice shape of the tombak and a very classy old hilt.
But indeed not very Indonesion in style.

Maybe a close up of the gold an silver work near the base can give some more info on the origin of the hilt ?

Best regards,
Willem

[Gavin Nugent]

It seems this may have been a pretty common this to do in the day, here is the one I passed back in August.

Gav