Log in

View Full Version : ID needed Persian or Ottoman Warriors?


Atlantia
9th September 2010, 07:56 PM
Here is an interesting tinned copper plate/tray.
Possibly of great age.
Anyone recognise the particular uniform of the soldiers?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/Battlestar_Atlantia/IM000150.jpg

TVV
10th September 2010, 12:47 AM
To me these look like hunters in what would be hunting attire, rather than soldiers in uniforms. Interesting to see depictions of hunting with a shamshir.

Regards,
Teodor

Atlantia
10th September 2010, 01:10 AM
To me these look like hunters in what would be hunting attire, rather than soldiers in uniforms. Interesting to see depictions of hunting with a shamshir.

Regards,
Teodor

Hi Teodor
Thanks, thats a very good point.
I particularly like the one leaning right off of the horse to slash with the sword!
No that the Tigers couldn't just jump up of course. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz03jksxx9c)
Do you think they are Persian then?

Ron Anderson
10th September 2010, 02:09 AM
The pictures remind me of Babylonian/Assyrian/Persian lion hunting depictions. I have a keen interest in the ancient middle east.

I don't think lion hunting has been in vogue for a long time. Certainly I don't think it was around during the Moghul/Indo-Persian period. I think this is a depiction of ancient Persian hunting. The hats suggest ancient Persian achemenid(?). I believe that more recent Persian art oftenshows ancient Persian depictions.

The uniforms remind me of ancient (acheminid?) Persian troops circa 400-500 BC.

That's my 0.0000000000000000000000002 cents worth. :)

Ron Anderson
10th September 2010, 09:53 AM
I must correct myself there.

Looking closer I can see these aren't lions, they're tigers.

I still think these may be Persian, rather than Ottoman. The uniforms look ancient Persian. But I would now guess not nearly as ancient as achemenid (spelling possibly dodgy, please forgive).

TVV
10th September 2010, 05:03 PM
Do you think they are Persian then?

Persian would be my guess, but this is all it is - just a guess.

Atlantia
11th September 2010, 03:07 PM
Well........
Thank you gentlemen.
I initially thought Persian. It's tinned copper and I've seen very similar pieces described as 17th/18th C Safavid.
Bu then the doubts start to creep in and I started wondering if its Ottoman.....

Also the tiger/lion things have got really long tails..... Like wolves :shrug: