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semar
28th August 2010, 07:09 PM
ho can tel me the name of the pamor and the name of the wood ware the scabbard is made from

regards semar

Marcokeris
28th August 2010, 07:18 PM
I like a lot this blade (...pamor) ALso the root of sarong seems very nice

BluErf
29th August 2010, 05:03 AM
This is a Bugis-like keris, not a Bugis keris. To find the answer to your questions, perhaps you should try to ask the makers, who are probably still producing these Bugis-like kerises now. :)

BigG
29th August 2010, 05:41 AM
This is a Bugis-like keris, not a Bugis keris. To find the answer to your questions, perhaps you should try to ask the makers, who are probably still producing these Bugis-like kerises now. :)

agree.. it is meant to emulate the stye of the Tappi Sappukala or the Sepokal Keris of the bugis... But though there is a very slight curve to the blade... the overall look simply does not fit in to the Bugis Sepokal design...

The pamor is too refined and complex for a Bugis blade... there are Bugis and Bugis influence blades wth excellent examples of pamors.. notable those from Palembang,Trenganu & Sumbawa... but i believe this is far too refined and does not give a feel of a bugis blade...

This blade may also be missing a ganjar...

Rick
29th August 2010, 04:10 PM
Gentlemen, let's continue without personal conflict please .

I'd suggest PM's for the other stuff .

Rick
29th August 2010, 09:12 PM
agree.. it is meant to emulate the stye of the Tappi Sappukala or the Sepokal Keris of the bugis... But though there is a very slight curve to the blade... the overall look simply does not fit in to the Bugis Sepokal design...

The pamor is too refined and complex for a Bugis blade... there are Bugis and Bugis influence blades wth excellent examples of pamors.. notable those from Palembang,Trenganu & Sumbawa... but i believe this is far too refined and does not give a feel of a bugis blade...

This blade may also be missing a ganjar...

I was thinking it looked a bit odd for an Iras . :confused:
The pamor seems well controlled and imo goes along nicely with the grain of the Gonjo ................errrr wrongko . :D

David
29th August 2010, 11:57 PM
The pamor seems well controlled and imo goes along nicely with the grain of the Gonjo
Did you mean wrongko/sarong here? If so, i agree. :)

Rick
30th August 2010, 01:40 AM
Doh !! :o :o

Busy day, tired .

Must proofread . :(
Fixed . ;)

'night . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

sirek
30th August 2010, 10:37 AM
in my opinion this wood called: "afzelia xylocarpa"

Text from the internet:

(Afzelia wood can have incredible figure, and the most outstanding and rare is the xlay figure . It looks like raised alligator skin, which really shows best when the surface is very highly polished. No other wood figure looks quite like it, and it is very hard to get, being only a tiny percentage of the afzelia wood available.)

BigG
30th August 2010, 10:53 AM
Gentlemen, let's continue without personal conflict please .

I'd suggest PM's for the other stuff .

My apolagies if I have caused any offence... :o

BigG
30th August 2010, 10:56 AM
Should I have been mistaken in my initial asessment about the missing ganjar... may we be given a look at the base of the ganjar... the the form of the sekar cicak... would be a good indicator...

Rick
30th August 2010, 03:22 PM
My apolagies if I have caused any offence... :o

None at all; my comment was in reference to a deleted post that is a bit back up the list of replies to this thread . :)

BigG
30th August 2010, 05:20 PM
None at all; my comment was in reference to a deleted post that is a bit back up the list of replies to this thread . :)

K.. :)

semar
30th August 2010, 05:52 PM
thank you sirek
for your reply about the name of the wood

regards semar

BluErf
31st August 2010, 04:03 PM
Hi Semar,

I'm sorry for upsetting you with my comments. They had been thoughtless and a knee-jerk response from me. I had no ill intentions other than sharing my opinion on this keris.

My apologies again.

Regards,
Kai Wee

semar
2nd September 2010, 11:00 AM
oke no hard feelings bleuerf and thank you for your apologies

regards semar

PenangsangII
3rd September 2010, 04:14 AM
IMHO, this is a dapur brojol, dressed in Bugis-like sarung and hilt. Judging from the pamor's garap, I opine that this is made by Maduran pandhe.....