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[ganjawulung]

During my short stay in Amsterdam later, in the end of this month, I am eager to see again, the Tropen Museum. Especially, its keris collection.. How is it like now? Are there more "keris places" worth to see in this Netherlands capital? Thank you, in advance...

GANJAWULUNG

[Maurice]

The tropenmuseum is really nice to hang out. A lot of the Dutch colonialism can be see there.
Also a cool New Guinea exposition they have there.

But be aware that from the huge online database they have, only a tip is exhibited for public.
But if you also like tribal art, it is really a great museum.....

You can also go to the antique district of Amsterdam. You have to be in the area around the "Spiegelgracht". There are a lot of galleries, where you also can find some tribal art. Nice to see, but for me impossible to buy things there because of the high prices......

Regards,
Maurice

[ferrylaki]

During my short stay in Amsterdam later, in the end of this month, I am eager to see again, the Tropen Museum. Especially, its keris collection.. How is it like now? Are there more "keris places" worth to see in this Netherlands capital? Thank you, in advance...

GANJAWULUNG

would you be kind to take some photograph from the museum? the photograph of kerises ofcourse.

[Maurice]

would you be kind to take some photograph from the museum? the photograph of kerises ofcourse.
My last visit I made some images from the museum!
Not that good because of the little light, not allowing flashlight, and the glass which is in front of the pieces.......but images are tolerable...

[ganjawulung]

@Maurice, thanks a lot for your info. Do kerises in this 'collections online' are still exhibited? Nice balinese keris, and also -- if I'm not mistaken -- a Riau keris. Photos of people wearing kerises are also interesting...
http://collectie.tropenmuseum.nl/nBasicSearch.asp?showtype=icons&lang=en&type=simple&field1=*&operator1=is&searchfor1=KRIS&sort=ccrelevance
@Ferrylaki, yes I will try to take photos of course, if it is allowed..

GANJAWULUNG

[Maurice]

[QUOTE=ganjawulung
@Ferilaki, yes I will try to take photos of course, if it is allowed..

GANJAWULUNG[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is allowed, but no flashlight!

[Maurice]

I started a thread with pictures of weapons I made, which are exhibited for public in the Tropenmuseum.
I made the thread in the "Ethnographic Weapons" section, because there are also other pieces as kerisses to admire, which forumites who collect other edged weapons would like to see.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=105877&posted=1#post105877

Maurice

[Alam Shah]

Here are some pictures taken at the museum by a friend. :)

http://rajknives.multiply.com/photos/album/43/Tropen_Museum_-_Amsterdam
http://rajknives.multiply.com/photos/album/44/Tropen_Museum_2

[ganjawulung]

Dear Maurice, and Alamshah,

Thank you for showing the photo display of the Tropenmuseum's collection. I hope, still able to see all of those you have just shown... Very attractive and valuable collection. Once again, thank you for showing the photos.

GANJAWULUNG

[kulbuntet]

Dear Ganja,

I read your mail, pls read replie. I wil try to get something nice as a present, dont know if it wil work.. but i wil try to arange it.

here some aditional photo's

Bali state Keirs 1 (http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5836/balistatiekeris02collec.jpg)

Bali state keris 2 (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6780/balistatiekeris03collec.jpg)

Bali state keris Hulu (http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8920/balistatiekeris04collec.jpg)

[kulbuntet]

Here 3 more:D

Jawa state keris Solo (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/983/javasolocollectietropen.jpg)

Sumatra state Keris 1 (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3218/sumartapalembangstatiek.jpg)

Sumatra state Keris 2 (http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3218/sumartapalembangstatiek.jpg)

All the pics are bit big..so thats why the links and not the complete images,

Reagrds

[ganjawulung]

Dear Michel AbdulRahman Van 't Hoff,

Really, excellent collections of Tropenmuseum. Thanks a lot, for your kindness. A couple of almost similar kerises you may see also at the collection of Museum Gajah, or National Museum of Jakarta in Indonesia. (Some of the Sumatran kerises now are exhibited at Singapore Civilization Museum, until October 2010. I think Kai Wee and Alamshah could tell us, the "Sumatran Exhibition" there too...)

Really like to see the Tropenmuseum collection, soon....

GANJAWULUNG

[kulbuntet]

Dear Ganja,

No problem, your welcome. I hope the other forumites also like the big pics.

Did you read my replie on Facebook? I wil send you my adress and
phone number.

The thing is maybe like other museums too, the Tropenmuseum only have maybe 1 to 2% of what they have on display in the museum. Personaly i totaly disslike that, but what have i to say about that?

regards,

Ab

[Battara]

Kulbuntet thank you for those great (big) pictures. Great detail.

Gangawulung - I look forward to your pictures of these great pieces and more.

[ganjawulung]

Yes, Battara,
I hope I can do as Michel and Rasjid did, take photos of the Tropenmuseum collections soon... Hoping too, that the Knaud kris is still exhibited there

[David]

Yes, Battara,
I hope I can do as Michel and Rasjid did, take photos of the Tropenmuseum collections soon... Hoping too, that the Knaud kris is still exhibited there
Just in case it's not on display... :)

[ganjawulung]

Thanks, David,

I found interesting story on this interesting Charles Knaud's kris... The images of "wayang" in the bottom part of the blade reminds me to some reliefs of Sukuh and Cetho temples in the eastern part of Solo, Central Java. The specific wayang reliefs dated back to the end of Majapahit era...

On Sukuh Temple or Candi Sukuh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candi_Sukuh
On Sukuh Reliefs http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candi_Sukuh
On Cetho Temple of Candi Cetho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candi_Cetho
On Tantric Buddhism influence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana_Buddhism_in_Southeast_Asia
On Knaud kris as David just posted http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WLANL_-_MicheleLovesArt_-_Tropenmuseum_-_Kris_Van_Knaud_%286046-1%29.jpg

GANJAWULUNG

[kulbuntet]

Kulbuntet thank you for those great (big) pictures. Great detail.

Gangawulung - I look forward to your pictures of these great pieces and more.
no problem, your welcome! The museum is at the end of street were i live. :P

regards Ab

[ferrylaki]

thank you every body for these links. I found so many beautifull pictures. there are so many great collection in Tropenmuseum Amsterdam. fantastic!!!
Mr. Ganjawulung,I'm looking forward for your photos. I'll be waiting for you in Jakarta.

[Jean]

Really like to see the Tropenmuseum collection, soon....

GANJAWULUNG

Dear Pak Ganja, :)
I advise you to also visit the Ethnographic Museum in Leiden if you have time. They also have nice kris collections.
Best regards
Jean

[ganjawulung]

@ferry, thanks for the attention. With pleasure, I will share with you the fotos in Jakarta...
@Jean, yes, it was on my mind too. But due to my limited duration of stay in Holland this time (most of the time in Den Haag and Amsterdam), I am afraid I could not go there... Anyway, thanks for the info Jean.

GANJAWULUNG

[Henk]

Ganjawulung,

How long do you stay here in Holland? Traveling from city to city doesn't take much time here. After all Holland is a small country. Japanese tourists do Europe in 2 weeks and Holland in 1 day :D

[ganjawulung]

....After all Holland is a small country. Japanese tourists do Europe in 2 weeks and Holland in 1 day :D
Not as that small Henk, I think... Eight days, but with quite a lot of activities. I don't know yet, if I have much free time to "keris sight seing' in Holland. Tomorrow, hopefully will be there. Thanks Henk. I will contact Michel Ab (kulbuntet), Marcel (Max) and you as soon as I am in Holland...

GANJAWULUNG

[ganjawulung]

Yes,

The collections of kerises on display at Tropenmuseum, are really great. Although -- according to a source -- only about 5 persen among tens of museum's collection are on display. And yes, one of the most unique piece is the Knaught keris on the first floor...

Unfortunately, one of the best known keris museum curator Mr David van Duuren is not there anymore since two months ago. The museum said, Mr Van Duuren has been retired from his old job. I could not find or contact this gentleman.

Thanks to you, Hans Voys (the silent member of this warung?) for helping me to get there, and of course to Kulbuntet or Michel AbdulRahman Van't Hoff who are staying not far from the museum...

GANJAWULUNG

[kulbuntet]

Dear pak Ganja,

Your welcome, i hope you enjoyed your busy days here in Belanda. I enjoyed meeting you and our walk in museum and visit at my place to have a look at my starting collection :D. I hope you have arived well in Jakarta now, and could take some moment of rest afther the busy traveling.

I think i can say like all others here, i look up to moment that you can show us your photo's.

Wasalam Abdulrahman

[ganjawulung]

Dear Ab and All,

Already back to the heat again. Jakarta is very hot, Ab. And still raining, although it should be dry season... And almost rainy season again on Desember.
These are, only a few pictures on the Tropenmuseum's collection for you...

GANJAWULUNG

[BluErf]

Drooooool.... :) Thanks for sharing Pak Ganjawulung

[Alam Shah]

Drooooool.... :) Thanks for sharing Pak Ganjawulung

Ditto.. perhaps time to visit Asian Civilisations Museum (ACM) again.. to drool at the, "Sumatra: Isle of Gold" keris exhibits, etc.. :D

[ganjawulung]

Drooooool.... :) Thanks for sharing Pak Ganjawulung
Drool, too Kai Wee. Once I saw the "nagasasra" at the Civilization Museum last year....
Ditto.. perhaps time to visit Asian Civilisations Museum (ACM) again.. to drool at the, "Sumatra: Isle of Gold" keris exhibits, etc.. :D
September? Oktober? When will the exhibition end?

GANJAWULUNG

[Alam Shah]

Drool, too Kai Wee. Once I saw the "nagasasra" at the Civilization Museum last year....

September? Oktober? When will the exhibition end?

GANJAWULUNG7 November 2010, (( link )) (http://alamshah67.multiply.com/calendar/item/10068/Sumatra_Isle_of_Gold)

[Battara]

Gangawulung is there any way to post bigger pictures?

Alam Shah I wish I had the funds to get over there to see this exhibit. :(