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Gustav
1st July 2010, 06:34 PM
Dear All

in Tammens "de Kris III" there is a picture (Nr. 173) of a planar hilt. In the description (page 205) he writes:

"Very old wooden copy of the silver "Bawar" hilts, which were donated centuries ago by the Sultan of Aceh to the Kampong leaders in the Gayo and Alas countries."

In the recent thread about Sajens sheath I posted an old picture (between 1890-1920), where two keris from Aceh with very similar hilts are depicted. The surface looks like worked with a white metal.

Is somebody able to confirm Tammens' information or add something?

Has somebody an example of such hilt? My only sources are Tammens and this picture, and when I saw it for the first time I was really perplex.

Gustav
1st July 2010, 07:31 PM
The Selut-Mendak in this picture resembles very much the selut on the golden keris from Sulawesi (and Bima), with hilts depicting Bhima (or Arjuna). These keris are clearly status symbols, the blades seems to be Javanese, and probably also the hilts. There are roughly made Toraja copies, but the originals are most probably pre-islamic.

In Sumatra there are occuring similar, very roughly made keris (for bridal ceremonies).

Similar selut in Tropenmuseum:

http://collectie.tropenmuseum.nl/nBasicSearch.asp?lang=en&sort=ccrelevance&dclbvb=&dclbgt=&field1=*&searchfor1=kris%20bali&operator1=is&field2=&searchfor2=&operator2=&andornot2=&field3=&searchfor3=&operator3=&andornot3=&field4=&searchfor4=&operator4=&andornot4=&field5=&searchfor5=&operator5=&andornot5=&field6=&searchfor6=&operator6=&andornot6=&field7=&searchfor7=&operator7=&andornot7=&field8=&searchfor8=&operator8=&andornot8=&field9=&searchfor9=&operator9=&andornot9=&field10=&searchfor10=&operator10=&andornot10=&showtype=single%20objects&first=16&searchaids=&geographynode=&subjectnode=&culturenode=

Stunning, how details of status keris are following Javanese prototypes ewerywhere in the archipelago. Planar hilt forms (without patra's) are occuring in Java early, probably before 1600.

Sajen
1st July 2010, 07:33 PM
Hello Gustav,

yes, I have a hilt like this worked from black horn. I get it with a small Minangkabau keris. This keris was shown in this thread:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10058
Unfortunately I can't add other informations.

erikscollectables
1st July 2010, 09:50 PM
Gustav - the picture and your story originally come from the book: De tocht van Lt Col Van Daal naar de Gajo, Alas en Bataklanden door . (book by Lt Kempees)
On of the most infamous expeditions by the Dutch East Indies Armies and a very interesting read. These kerisses were given to the local Gayo leaders as a symbol of their office and therefore locally very important that were passed on generation after generation. Will try to look up the original text in the weekend or after if that is of interest to you.

Regards, Erik

for those that read Dutch about this expedition:

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atjeh-oorlog:_tocht_van_G.C.E._van_Daalen_(1904)

http://www.acehbooks.org/pdf/ACEH_00343.pdf


Dear All

in Tammens "de Kris III" there is a picture (Nr. 173) of a planar hilt. In the description (page 205) he writes:

"Very old wooden copy of the silver "Bawar" hilts, which were donated centuries ago by the Sultan of Aceh to the Kampong leaders in the Gayo and Alas countries."

In the recent thread about Sajens sheath I posted an old picture (between 1890-1920), where two keris from Aceh with very similar hilts are depicted. The surface looks like worked with a white metal.

Is somebody able to confirm Tammens' information or add something?

Has somebody an example of such hilt? My only sources are Tammens and this picture, and when I saw it for the first time I was really perplex.

Gustav
1st July 2010, 10:22 PM
Sajen and Eric, thank you very much!

Of course I am interested in this text!

erikscollectables
2nd July 2010, 02:54 PM
Here already the same photo but with the caption and the first page of several about Bawars - will make a list of the important parts later on...

Gustav
2nd July 2010, 03:42 PM
Very, very interesting!

And it stops at the most interesting point! A little bit like a TV production.

With impatience waiting for the continuation :)

erikscollectables
2nd July 2010, 05:51 PM
Very, very interesting!

And it stops at the most interesting point! A little bit like a TV production.

With impatience waiting for the continuation :)

The total is 4,5 pages including a legend around a specifi bawar...
Here the highlights:
*Sign of dignity for the "heads" of gayo given by the Sultan of Aceh - the "owner" of the lands.
*They were passed on each generation to the new ruler
*They are very old (written in 1914)
*The blade has the wavy form and size of the Javanese keris.
*It should be worn in a much longer sheath
*Most of these sheaths have been lost by new ones
*They are worn in a girdle in the front of the body.
*Most often as it is too precious it is covered in clothes and worn by one of the people
*The ones in the photo have a grip made of silver, a cup made of suassa set with rubies of which many have been lost over time.
*The sheath is short but very old and made of a beautiful type of wood and with some decoration in the wood.
*Apart from the local kings also some lesser heads have them but it is doubtfull if these were really gifts by the Sultan of Aceh.
*Probably many of these were locally made to improve the status of the lesser heads.
*The "copies" also have been passed down the line and now are also pusaka's
*The are less beautifull with grips of copper or even wood.
*The were also used at feast to give the wearer more status for example on a wedding.

Well that is it for the moment.
If any of you have one please make a picture and if you have on to sell do send a mail... :D

Sajen
2nd July 2010, 07:15 PM
One nice example is shown on the kris disc from Jensen chapter 9.3, picture 173b.

erikscollectables
2nd July 2010, 09:05 PM
One nice example is shown on the kris disc from Jensen chapter 9.3, picture 173b.

Indeed a similar one of the type with a wooden hilt and very nice suassa/gold cup style selut.

Albert
1st March 2025, 01:27 PM
Here already the same photo but with the caption and the first page of several about Bawars - will make a list of the important parts later on...


Can anyone tell me from which publication thi page is?

Sajen
1st March 2025, 04:53 PM
Can anyone tell me from which publication thi page is?

Hello Albert,

Have a look to post #4.

Regards,
Detlef

Albert
2nd March 2025, 10:15 PM
Hello Albert,

Have a look to post #4.

Regards,
Detlef

Hello Detlef,

Unfortunately the mentioned (and the 'missing ones') are not in the book of Kempenees.
So it remains a mystery.
Can anyone help?

Best,
Albert

Maurice
3rd March 2025, 04:57 PM
Hello Detlef,

Unfortunately the mentioned (and the 'missing ones') are not in the book of Kempenees.
So it remains a mystery.
Can anyone help?

Best,
Albert

Hi Albert,

It is from page 89 on and further

Kind regards,
Maurice

Maurice
3rd March 2025, 05:15 PM
Unfortunately in Dutch...

Albert
3rd March 2025, 08:51 PM
Great Maurice! Thank you very much.

Green
23rd March 2025, 04:18 AM
Dear All

Has somebody an example of such hilt? My only sources are Tammens and this picture, and when I saw it for the first time I was really perplex.

Here is a picture of a keris with a Bewar hilt from a just completed auction yesterday.

Sajen
23rd March 2025, 08:04 PM
Here is a picture of a keris with a Bewar hilt from a just completed auction yesterday.

Jep,

went to high for me! :D