keris bugis

[hanggoye]

i got this keris complete with this terengganu fitting and also with ivory hilt.

any comment and opinion are welcome...

regards
hanggoye

[Jentayu]

Indeed a very nice keris you got there, Nash. Congrats!

[Gustav]

Careful and interesting pamor work. A pity about Kembang Kacang, looks like a repair/replacement.

Is the hilt within the standards of good malayan workmanship? Is it being cleaned in some way?

[Sajen]

Sorry, the hilt doesn't look like ivory/gading. :confused: From the pictures I would guess Tridacna at the carvings coloured.

Very nice blade! :)

[hanggoye]

Careful and interesting pamor work. A pity about Kembang Kacang, looks like a repair/replacement.

Is the hilt within the standards of good malayan workmanship? Is it being cleaned in some way?

gold that you seen is not use for repaired the kembang kacang but only used to cover the original kembang kacang..if you pull it off, you can see the original kembang kacang behind it..that what some people told me when they saw this blade..

this hilt is called pipit teleng..one of the favorite hilt in terengganu..this hilt is new made i think and the material is ivory

[hanggoye]

Sorry, the hilt doesn't look like ivory/gading. :confused: From the pictures I would guess Tridacna at the carvings coloured.

Very nice blade! :)


this hilt is made from new ivory..i dont know if its colored or not..but the material is from ivory..

tq sajen

[Gustav]

Just for fun, probably the same workshop for the sarung: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=425&highlight=terengganu

[Marcokeris]

:eek: great pamor :)

[hanggoye]

Just for fun, probably the same workshop for the sarung: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=425&highlight=terengganu


agree..same workmanship for the sarung..

[hanggoye]

:eek: great pamor :)


thanks marco...any idea what type of pamor is this??

[Marcokeris]

thanks marco...any idea what type of pamor is this??
it seems to have reflection pattern

[Sajen]

this hilt is made from new ivory..i dont know if its colored or not..but the material is from ivory..

tq sajen

You have it in your hands and I am sure that you know what you have. :)
I only write what it looks like from the picture.

Regards,

Detlef

[Sajen]

thanks marco...any idea what type of pamor is this??

The pamor is not clearly to seen at your pictures. Is it similar with this one?

[PenangsangII]

salam hormat,

Hanggoye's keris looks like an attempt to create "kedakan" effect of the blade pamor surface. However, the "kedakan" effect on mostly Jawanese blade, is different than this example. The Jawanese kedakan effect is smooth on the surface, but the effect can be seen like wavy pattern.

IMHO, a "confused" way to create pamor kedakan is by filing the blade across the blade, and the effect is the blade's surface becomes wavy.....

[ganjawulung]

We call it, "pamor tritikan" or known by most of keris people in Jawa as "untu walang" (I don't know why they call it as "grass hopper teeth" like this...). What is in Bugis term? Or Malay term?

GANJAWULUNG

[BluErf]

I hear people say 'gigi yul'. :)

[Alam Shah]

I hear people say 'gigi yul'. :)In Malay, it's called 'gigi yu', (sharks's teeth)..

PenangsangII, I do not understand what is 'kedakan'? Perhaps you may want to elaborate it. Thanks.

[PenangsangII]

In Malay, it's called 'gigi yu', (sharks's teeth)..

PenangsangII, I do not understand what is 'kedakan'? Perhaps you may want to elaborate it. Thanks.

kedakan is a method of creating wavy look on smooth blade surface... the pamor materian and iron are hammered from certain position (unlike the normally downward strike) to create some kind of folding look, and file it again so that the blade surface is even. So, it only looks wavy but the surface is even/smooth.

[Alam Shah]

Thanks PenangsangII for the info.. :)

[Moshah]

The Jawanese kedakan effect is smooth on the surface, but the effect can be seen like wavy pattern..

Agreed...Javanese / Palembang kedakan looks like it has a "bumpy" surface but it is definitely smooth to the touch. It is like a color tricks.

[BluErf]

In Malay, it's called 'gigi yu', (sharks's teeth)..



Ack! :p Thanks for pointing out correct spelling. :D