residue of Yoruba sword

[Martin Lubojacky]

The hilt is made of brass or copper, and my opinion is old European saber blade was utilized. Comming from Ibadan

[katana]

Although the Yoruba have close ties with the Kingdoms of Benin....I would say that the hilt is likely, more specifically, of Benin origin, judging by the atire of the 'warrior'.
I haven't seen a figural hilt on a sword from this region before....interesting ;)

Regards David

[Martin Lubojacky]

I have also never seen figural hilt here before. I think it could be some "untraditional" modification. How old could it be ? Presently they do not produce so small figures with such details, like on this figure, so I hope - maybe 19th century ? I still did not clean it. Usually I used to put the item together with aliminium plates into the water solution of sodium carbonate corrosion to be removed during electrolytical reaction (the brass/copper keeps dark "patina" at the same time), but I have some doubts if it is still possible to determine the age of the items by chromatographical analysis of patina - after such treatment.
Regards,
Martin

[katana]

Hi Martin,
I would think that only laboratory 'tests' could determine the age of the hilt. Bronze and brass seem to be 'easily' aged using chemicals, although I believe the patination produced is only 'surface deep'. The hilt, if genuinely old, has not been regulary handled as there are no 'wear marks' in the patina. The overall condition seems to suggest that it has been in a damp environment, buried in the ground perhaps. But whether this was done to artifically age it or is genuine patina would be hard to assess from pictures.
I've always liked the Benin bronze work.....notice my Avatar ;)

Hopefully Tim may add some thoughts....he has excellent knowledge of 'metal casting' and African artifacts.

Regards David

[Tim Simmons]

David you are too kind.

It certainly appears to be a sword blade that one would think was very old. Benin/Yoruba staff and sceptre do have cast figure handles. This perhaps may have been use for parade? I am not an expert but do have doubts about the age of the handle. It looks as though it has been underground and made to look old with chemical treatment also corroding the blade. I do not think the modelling of the figure is good enough for a high status or court object of the 19th century. Looking through the grime it is remarkably fresh. I have this early? 20th century Nigerian piece.

[katana]

David you are too kind.

It certainly appears to be a sword blade that one would think was very old. Benin/Yoruba staff and sceptre do have cast figure handles. This perhaps may have been use for parade? I am not an expert but do have doubts about the age of the handle. It looks as though it has been underground and made to look old with chemical treatment also corroding the blade. I do not think the modelling of the figure is good enough for a high status or court object of the 19th century. Looking through the grime it is remarkably fresh. I have this early? 20th century Nigerian piece.

Hi Tim,
you're too modest ....credit where credit is due, Tim.

Hi Martin,
this article is interesting reading ....may help in 'aging' the hilt......

http://www.authenticafricanbronzesandceramics.com/

All the best
David

[Martin Lubojacky]

David and Tim, thank you very much for your comments. Because of circumstances under the which the item was acquired I am nearly convinced it was not produced to be sold to tourists. But, surely, local maket is full of "Benin" figures (and also "ada" choppers) patinated artificially, but this "patina" is usually nearly black and smooth, with imitation of glossy (exserted) places -"caused by touching". Thanks for the web site, I will do my best to arrange analysis, but it will take some time.
Regards,
Martin

[Martin Lubojacky]

So - I am back - and with sad news. I sent samples of patina/corrosion to Europe (specialised chemical laboratory recommended by David -see http://www.authenticafricanbronzesandceramics.com/). After the chemical analysis the verdikt is definite. This my item is a big fake, patinated and aged arificially :mad: :o :(
Regards,
Martin

[katana]

Hi Martin,
sorry to hear the news .....I'm disappointed for you :(

Regards David