help with a mark on rapier

[BerberDagger]

Hello everyone, I would ask for help in identifying this mark in a knife ... a lion sitting ...

thank you very much

[katana]

Hi Berberdagger,
sorry can't help with the marking, although I've taken the liberty to try and make the mark a little clearer. Could you post pictures of the entire Rapier ? Thanks

Regards David

[celtan]

Belgium / Netherlands?

Very stylized. thus relatively modern...

M

Hi Berberdagger,
sorry can't help with the marking, although I've taken the liberty to try and make the mark a little clearer. Could you post pictures of the entire Rapier ? Thanks

Regards David

[BerberDagger]

Thank you katana for the good photo!

this marks is on 17th century rapier .... but I m not be able to find the provenence of the blade like on my reference books I dont find this mark....

I thought german but I m not sure...

if everyone have more information .....

L.

[Jim McDougall]

I very much agree with David, it is important to post an entire weapon rather than simply an inscription or marking as the context is typically important to recognizing origins. Just looking at a 'lion' on a blade might bring the temptation of suggesting the 'Lion of Judah' often seen on Abyssinian/Ethiopian blades.
A winged lion would suggest the marking from Venice, and more in place on a rapier, especially of classical form. Also I am puzzled, it is noted the mark is in a knife, but the title and illustration mention rapier.

All best regards,
Jim

[fernando]

Indeed such a perfect lion for a XVII century mark :confused: .
I too would love to see that rapier :shrug:
Fernando

[BerberDagger]

hello,

mark find, it is saxon mark .... I post photos of the full rapier early...

regards
L.

[fernando]

hello,

mark find, it is saxon mark .... I post photos of the full rapier early...

regards
L.

Yes ... please !