Help to identify this Klewang

[mykeris]

Appreciate if you friends could help identify this Klewang which has ended ebay listing yesterday under title: DATED OLD ANTIQUE KLEWANG Indonesian Malayan SWORD KRIS
1295 AH. OWNERS NAME SIGNED ISLAMIC SCRIPT

Be glad if you could focus on:
Origin
The Islamic Script written on the scabbard ( I am unable to identify)

Regards,
Mykeris.

[Sajen]

My guess that it is from Sumatra.

sajen

[mykeris]

Thanks Sajen, it could not be Minangkabau because handle is Dragon? Could it be Batak? ..I doubt because of the Islamic Script. A Javanese perhaps? :)

[Sajen]

First some of the pictures from the seller.

[Sajen]

Hello Mykeris,

I also don't think that it could be Batak, most of the Batak are christian (but not all), the sheat have some affinitys to Aceh. Why do you think it coudn't be Minangkabau? I don't think that it could be javanese but maybe a other option is Lombok? :shrug:

BTW, it is the wrong place in Keris Warung Kopi.

sajen

[David]

Sorry gentleman, but we only discuss keris on this forum so i am transferring this over to the main forum. :)

[Sajen]

Sorry gentleman, but we only discuss keris on this forum so i am transferring this over to the main forum. :)

Thank's David! ;)

[mykeris]

Thanks Sajen, usually Minangkabau's hilt motif would not be of a Dragon but sometihing like horse shoe (tapak kuda). Agree with you, maybe from Acheh. If some of our Malay friends could read the Jawi writing (Islamic script) on the scabbard would be useful.It would solve the problem. I could read only a little. The word Pedang (sword) has been mentioned. :)

[Alam Shah]

.. from Acheh. If some of our Malay friends could read the Jawi writing (Islamic script) on the scabbard would be useful.It would solve the problem. I could read only a little. The word Pedang (sword) has been mentioned. :)The script on the sheath is Acehese works.. The sword type looks like a co jang, but the aesthetics and hilt type is different..

[mykeris]

Thats interesting Alam, Thank you. Do you manage to understand whats been written? I am really curious to know what it means. :) Thanks in advance for your opinion.

[Henk]

I think we definitly can say the scabbard is Aceh. The scabbard is not original to this klewang. The scabbard is a damaged scabbard from a sikin panjang.

The sword is a sumatran pedang with a pamor blade. Lovely pedang, but a bit to expensive. I'm happy for the seller but I feel very very sorry for the buyer :shrug:

[asomotif]

The scabbard is definately sikin panjang / Aceh and not original to the pedang.

This pedang would have a simple wooden scabbard that is oval, close to round in diameter. Maybe with some simple silver bands.

I also notice some traces of red paint on the hilt.
A scabbard could have also been painted red. :shrug:

I believe the lower jaw of the creature/dragon is missing.
With a complete hilt it would have been worth the price. (imho)
Now it went away rather high, but I can imagine that one would bid such an amount, as it is an original item and in that aspect much better than the poshy crap that is being offered from Medan lately via epray.

[Sajen]

Now it went away rather high, but I can imagine that one would bid such an amount, as it is an original item and in that aspect much better than the poshy crap that is being offered from Medan lately via epray.

Agree complete! ;) :D

[mykeris]

Thanks and appreciate all your comments. Regards, Mykeris.

:)

[VVV]

The only sword hilt like that I have seen documented is in Leiden (499/25), where they say it's from Java.
It's in the catalogue but not in the picture archive?

Michael