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Bally555
24th September 2009, 07:09 PM
Can anyone please decipher/translate this mark on one of my blades, it would really be appreciated.

Jim McDougall
25th September 2009, 03:31 PM
Can anyone please decipher/translate this mark on one of my blades, it would really be appreciated.

Hello Bally, and welcome to the forum!!
There are a number of members here who can offer help with translation on this Islamic cartouche on what appears to be a 'watered' shamshir blade?
It would be great to see the entire sword for context.
Thank you for posting this,
Best regards,
Jim

Bally555
25th September 2009, 06:57 PM
Hi jim thank you for the reply, i am eagerly awaiting a reply on the mark i will post the rest of the blade in due course but i can guarentee one thing that you will not have seen a blade like it due to one very unique feteaure. Im very impressed with your details of the shamshir blade with just a picture of the mark.

Jim McDougall
27th September 2009, 05:31 AM
Hi jim thank you for the reply, i am eagerly awaiting a reply on the mark i will post the rest of the blade in due course but i can guarentee one thing that you will not have seen a blade like it due to one very unique feteaure. Im very impressed with your details of the shamshir blade with just a picture of the mark.

Thanks very much Bally! I'm sure that as soon as the crew here that are well versed in Islamic cartouches and inscriptions show up they will accomodate, and I'm always anxious to see unusual features on weapons.
All the best,
Jim

Dom
27th September 2009, 06:10 PM
translate this mark on one of my blade

:D here we're :p
very simply, the translation is
- "Macha'Allah" either in English "as God welling"
religious interjection

under, there is something; three (3) signs, two (2) of them may be considerated as digit
from left to right; four (4) and zero (0) the third it's not intelligible

like it is, no signification at least for us, may be some one else could have an idea ?? :shrug:

à +

Dom

ariel
27th September 2009, 08:34 PM
Well, now it is your turn to show us the unusual blade :-)

Bally555
28th September 2009, 05:27 PM
Can anyone please decipher/translate this mark on one of my blades, it would really be appreciated...

Dom
28th September 2009, 06:05 PM
Indian job,
and may be the blade too

old or junk for tourists ?? :shrug:

you show just a minor part of your sword, (like eyes for a veiled girl :p )
no view on the tip of the blade, of his heel, quillon, handle
all of its essential element for an assessment :confused:
à +

Dom

Jim McDougall
29th September 2009, 01:48 AM
Dom, thank you for coming in on this with the translation.
Bally, I agree, assessments on swords are comprehensive and it is important to have the full context. The Indian suggestion by Dom is to me well placed, and these allegorical panels with animals etc. are not unusual on 'shikargar' blades which were basically seen on hunting weapons.
It seems to me the Islamic cartouche is not usually found on blades with these kinds of panels, but that is simply with my own limited observation.

Best regards,
Jim