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Jason Anstey
25th August 2009, 02:56 PM
Sword Review Zubeng Tang Jian

Specifications:

Blade Material: Master Chen’s Tamahagane
Layers: between 1 and 2 million layers
Weight of blade: 1100g
Materials of Furniture: Silver with Gold filigree/inlay


A pic to start with and then the story!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8384.jpg

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A little of my background - I have been studying and collecting mostly custom swords for over a decade. I teach and train in ZNKR Iaido, Jodo, Muso Shinden Ryu Iai and Shinto Muso Ryu Jo (sounds like a lot but it really is only two martial arts and they really form one.

Anyway I have always been fascinated by the Chinese arts and their association as predecessor to the Japanese arts both martial and craftwise.

After seeing the fantastic thread on another forum by Master Rich Chen on his traditional sword making I decided to contact him about a Jian commission.

We had numerous discussions as I really had a stereotypical Jian in mind and I thought to discuss and negotiate what “I” wanted. Master Chen was very polite and direct, he said “There are many ways, I have my way” or words to that effect and went on to discuss what he does and why.

I tried to get the price down (I am embarrassed to admit) and Master Chen was very friendly, polite and thanked me for my interest in real Chinese swords and said that he hoped that one day I would own one of his swords.

I understand that Master Chen has been approached by the Chinese government to make swords for heads of state, presidents from other countries etc for special presentations. I tossed and turned and spent quite a bit of time considering this large purchase. I realised that here is a man with such passion, knowledge and skills in his craft and here I am haggling over price and details!

Anyway I realised that I was talking with a man with great honour and sent an email to ask a couple more questions to clarify some points and then proceed.

I didn’t hear back from him for a few days I sent another couple of emails – I can’t remember exactly and assumed that he just got tired of this foreigners tiresome questions. ( I later found out that the constant black-outs and loss of power had caused the break in conversation ) During this time I decided to contact another high end smith and commissioned and paid for a very expensive and high end Jian.

The following day, I received an email from Master Chen apologising for the delay in response and explaining what had happened – ahhhhhhhghhhh. Bloody hell I had just spent a great deal of money on what will certainly be a great sword… but, the more I thought about his swords made from iron sand the more I desired one.

I sold quite few things scraped together the 50% deposit and the job was started. If my wife ever finds out I will find out first hand how sharp the sword is!!!

I have always thought that with commissions from people like Patrick Barta, Jake Powning, Vince Evans, John Lundemo and other best of the best of the Western style smiths that the wisest thing is let them have freedom to make what they wanted to make as they are the artists.

I ordered a style from his website but said to him that is there was anything he wanted to do different, then I have complete faith that he will only release a sword that he is 100% happy with.

Jason Anstey
25th August 2009, 02:58 PM
Master Chen performs a bend test on the forged blade

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_7357.jpg


Clay coating

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/post-27321-1248974044.jpg

Clay with charcoal powder.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/post-27321-1248974062.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/post-27321-1248974076.jpg

Jason Anstey
25th August 2009, 03:00 PM
Polishing

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_7412.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8355.jpg

Jason Anstey
25th August 2009, 03:01 PM
Fittings – Hand engraved silver with gold inlay. This design is a one off.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8282-1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8283.jpg

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Chiseling of Master Chen’s signature on the tang

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8312.jpg

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Certification

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8352.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8360.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Zubeng%20Jian/IMG_8378.jpg

Jason Anstey
25th August 2009, 03:02 PM
The sword will arrive this week and I will tell more!

Hope you enjoy the pics

Jason

Nathaniel
27th August 2009, 05:33 AM
Oh, man, you are a teaser, Jason....Can't wait to hear your review! Thanks for sharing :) The arrival of a new piece is always exciting...just like Christmas all over again for us grown men :P hahaha

Jason Anstey
27th August 2009, 10:01 AM
Oh, man, you are a teaser, Jason....Can't wait to hear your review! Thanks for sharing :) The arrival of a new piece is always exciting...just like Christmas all over again for us grown men :P hahaha

hehehehe, Yep, I keep checking the tracking of the parcel, it is on route, but will probably arrive this coming tuesday!

Cheers

Jason

ThePepperSkull
28th August 2009, 07:40 AM
Very interesting looking piece. I look foreward to further review once you recieve it!

KuKulzA28
28th August 2009, 07:59 AM
Looks like it's going to be a beauty...
Good to see traditional smithy arts live and kickin'... a lot of traditional arts were purposely destroyed in China.

Jason Anstey
2nd September 2009, 06:47 AM
Overall Length: 119cm (46.9”)
Length of Blade 79cm (31.1”) (measured from habaki)
PoB: 19cm from Guard (7.5”)

When I received with sword and knowing the journey this has taken nearly brought tears to my eyes, I knew the sword would be superb but this really just blew me away! It FAR exceeds my very high expectations. The fittings are beautifully detailed, I would say them the theme is Sakura (Cherry blossoms) but am not sure if this is the same meaning in Chinese? Silver will tarnish quickly so I think that when the silver takes on the darker tones this will add further character to the sword.

I spent a large amount of money I truly believe that I got a bargain and certainly an Heirloom piece. I think my sword spending is over for a while now but as we all know this collecting passion we have here is an addiction – oh well bread and water for me for a while now!

So here are the pics – hats off to you guys that can photograph swords well because it is sooo difficult! BTW the katanakake is one I made a few years ago from West Australian Jarrah – I will continue my search for a vertical stand.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Jian%20new/Sword_on_stand_a.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Jian%20new/Sword_02_a.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/nasteyone/Daab/Jian%20new/Sword_01_a.jpg

I have better sharper images if anyone is interested?

ThePepperSkull
2nd September 2009, 06:52 AM
Beautiful! I agree that once the shine of the fittings starts to diminish, it will add character to it. Patinated fittings always look great.

What is the handle wrapped with? Rayskin?

Jason Anstey
2nd September 2009, 07:01 AM
Beautiful! I agree that once the shine of the fittings starts to diminish, it will add character to it. Patinated fittings always look great.

What is the handle wrapped with? Rayskin?

Hi mate

Yep the handle is a nice high quality rayskin with quite large nodes and obviously polished a little and lacquered

Yeah it is a good thing is that silver doesn't take long to lose the bling

Thanks for your kind comments.

Jase

KuKulzA28
2nd September 2009, 07:08 AM
The jian's usage in a duel is sometimes described as "death by a thousand cuts".
Make sure you handle your beautiful heirloom-worthy blade with utmost care! :D

It is beautiful, and I hope the patina will, like fine wine, only improve with age.

Jason Anstey
2nd September 2009, 07:10 AM
The jian's usage in a duel is sometimes described as "death by a thousand cuts".
Make sure you handle your beautiful heirloom-worthy blade with utmost care! :D

It is beautiful, and I hope the patina will, like fine wine, only improve with age.


It will certainly be death by a thousand cuts if my wife finds out what I spent ! :D

Cheers mate

Jase

KuKulzA28
2nd September 2009, 07:39 AM
It will certainly be death by a thousand cuts if my wife finds out what I spent ! :D

Cheers mate

Jase
Wives and Knives...:rolleyes: *sigh* 'nuff said.
Talk smooth and stay safe. Remember, she's right, but you keep the sword! :D

Gavin Nugent
2nd September 2009, 11:35 AM
Congrats!

An outstanding example of modern craftsman's abilities, I am very impressed. The finished product is stunning.
I personally would love to see sharper images and if given the opportunity, speak with you at length about the ins and outs of the project, I think I want an heirloom piece too......

Gav

Jason Anstey
2nd September 2009, 12:16 PM
Congrats!

An outstanding example of modern craftsman's abilities, I am very impressed. The finished product is stunning.
I personally would love to see sharper images and if given the opportunity, speak with you at length about the ins and outs of the project, I think I want an heirloom piece too......

Gav

Thanks Gav!

I have a few 32mb files! But is really hard to photograph the detail of blade and the tightness of the grain etc.

Happy to discuss any aspects - PM me and I will give my phone numbers (as you are in Brizzy) and email details. If you ever get over to Perth you can check it out in person over a couple of middies.

Cheers

Jason




:D

Nathaniel
5th September 2009, 04:22 AM
Jason,

Stunning piece...blend of traditional and contemporary look :) Very fine craftsmanship. It will be interesting to hear how it compares to your other commissioned piece you mention by the other smith.

:D So you are keeping secret the price tag from your wife...lol, I'm sure a lot of us can identify with that...or rather my wife avoids asking :rolleyes: What does she think of your knew dandy?

Jason Anstey
5th September 2009, 02:02 PM
Jason,

Stunning piece...blend of traditional and contemporary look :) Very fine craftsmanship. It will be interesting to hear how it compares to your other commissioned piece you mention by the other smith.

:D So you are keeping secret the price tag from your wife...lol, I'm sure a lot of us can identify with that...or rather my wife avoids asking :rolleyes: What does she think of your knew dandy?

Cheers mate,

My wife is on Holidays for another 3 weeks, so I have plenty of time to work out my excuses :eek:

jase

Gavin Nugent
5th September 2009, 02:10 PM
Lucky man Jase,

I want to know you secret on how you got the wife to go on holidays and leave you in peace for that long.
I'll call early this coming week and you can give me a few tips then.
I loved the images and data, all the best.

Gav

Jason Anstey
5th September 2009, 02:55 PM
Lucky man Jase,

I want to know you secret on how you got the wife to go on holidays and leave you in peace for that long.
I'll call early this coming week and you can give me a few tips then.
I loved the images and data, all the best.

Gav

ahhh, she's visiting family and I had to come home to work to pay for these "inexpensive" toys were are all so passionate about.

Look forward to chatting soon Gav

Cheers

Jase