Coat of arms + date on pendok

[asomotif]

Sometimes the pendok is decorated on the back side.

"The invincible krises 2" has a few examples, but all with javanese dates.

How serious can a western date be taken ?
This example reads 25.9.1867
Any comments / ideas / advise ?

Thanks and best regards,
Willem

[David]

That's a good question Willem. I would think that if the keris were meant for indigenous usage that a western date like this might be suspect, but if it were a presentation piece to a westerner it might make more sense. :shrug:

[asomotif]

Yes, presentation piece for a foreigner would not be a bad idea.

But maybe this "coat of arms" rings a bell with someone on the forum ? :shrug:

[ganjawulung]

IMHO, it is a kind of stamp, or sign that this keris with the pendhok is not a property of certain person or administration authority.

It has been discussed in this forum before. Please see this:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6466&highlight=stamp

GANJAWULUNG

[asomotif]

Dear Ganjawalung,

Thanks for the link to the thread on this forum.
Inreresting information.

But in this case, why the european date ?
And the decoration is more decorated than the examples in the other thread.
This one has the 2 leave shapes on the side, but also some kind of crown and something on top of that.

Couldn't that suggest some specific authority ?

[Rick]

Looks a bit like the Mataram crest without the symbols .