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Ascalon
16th May 2009, 08:47 AM
I received this piece last week.
The inscription on the blade are curious. Arabic number but gregorian calendar (1883). The other inscription seems to be more strange, i don't recognise the alphabet.
Any enlightenment welcomed.

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/maroc310.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=153&u=11440882)

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/maroc210.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=154&u=11440882)

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/maroc110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=155&u=11440882)

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/maroc410.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=156&u=11440882)

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/44/08/82/maroc510.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=157&u=11440882)

Thanks
kahnjar1
16th May 2009, 09:21 AM
Algerian in my humble opinion. Looks better than most I have seen.
Regards Stuart
ariel
16th May 2009, 12:22 PM
The date is 1883.
Gregorian date using Arabic numerals? Or, is it 1883 H, ie 2448 Gregorian?
Ascalon
16th May 2009, 08:22 PM
Christian kabyl or copte perhaps?
Emanuel
17th May 2009, 12:00 AM
A Moroccan "wedding nimcha". Sometimes they have the smaller flyssa blades that were produced after the mid-19th century for "travellers".

The flyssa blades may have been produced by Kabyles at first, and then copied - with quality suffering greatly in my opinion - around Algeria and Morocco.

The handle is based on the Moroccan nimcha, so I'm further inclined to say this is a Moroccan piece.

This one is still far better than the "new" ones with blades stamped out of sheet metal.

Cheers,
Emanuel
Lew
17th May 2009, 02:48 AM
A Moroccan "wedding nimcha". Sometimes they have the smaller flyssa blades that were produced after the mid-19th century for "travellers".



Cheers,
Emanuel


I agree with you Manolo. This though is a very finely made example excellent materials and workmanship.

Lew
Dom
17th May 2009, 06:45 PM
Christian kabyl or copte perhaps?
Copte ?
no way,
because Copte are from East Africa, e.i. ; Egypt, Sudan, and even Ethiopia :p

if Kabyl was, and are, for some of them, Christians, they aren't Coptic :shrug:

also, in Islamic countries, specially about Egypt, the Christians (none military) wasn't allowed to carry weapons

in our case, I thing about a Berber short sword, mixup between; "flissa" and "nimcha" as well as mentionned Manolo, and Louis

à +

Dom