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Federico
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posted 03-06-2001 06:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Federico   Click Here to Email Federico     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If arsenic of the grade needed falls under hazmat rules and regs in the US I have the feeling as a non-industry individual it would be mighty hard to get if at all possible. Any suggestions for substitutes for arsenic, ie. other means by which to color the blade. One suggestion I was given was to use ferric chloride. I am unsure of its results though, since the times Ive used it (for different styles of blades though) it did not come anywhere near blackening the blade. Perhaps a longer soak, or a less dilued solution would be more effective?

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Kiki-Gonn
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posted 03-07-2001 20:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiki-Gonn   Click Here to Email Kiki-Gonn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eureka, like Archimedes of old, I have found it! Right in the promised land of Texas no less. Arsenic Trioxide, $100 for 500 grams (figure that'll be enough).
Okay, I don't want to be a total weenie about this because this is a lengthy, specialized post within a serious website BUT... I'm not going to say where I got it on the net. Any of you guys who were helping me out on this post, just e-mail me and I'll give you the specs. If someone else e-mails me for it, I'll going to turn them down.
Again, don't mean to be a weenie, but you senior members/moderators etc. can decide if this belongs on the actual site. Techinically, liability for this web site might be a concern.
Now I need some more specifics 'cause I'm dying to clean my keris!:
Proportions/times (e.g. one part water, two parts lemon juice, no more than fifteen minutes soak etc.) for the WHOLE process would be very much appreciated. I'm sure there's different methods but I'm new to this, so I'd rather follow any tested formula instead of winging it. Thanks for all the help!

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wong desa
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posted 03-08-2001 01:52     Click Here to See the Profile for wong desa   Click Here to Email wong desa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To achieve the correct colour there`s really no substitute for arsenic.
There are a number of substances,ferric chloride amongst them,that will give you some sort of a stain,but only arsenic will give you the correct colour.
Some time back there was discussion in this Forum of the various substances which can be used.If you go back and locate this thread I believe it may be of assistance to you.

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Federico
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posted 03-08-2001 04:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Federico   Click Here to Email Federico     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe I found the thread spoken of, but it was of little help. Again ferric chloride arose as the best etching agent. I have used it on moro blades, but not on keris so I am uncertain of what the results would be. Perhaps I hit the wrong thread, but I am always interested in learning alternate methods of etching. Found this EPA chemical fact sheet on arsenic trioxide. Thought it may be of interest to those wishing to know any possible ill effects so heres the link http://www.ndcrt.org/data/EPA_Chemical_Fact_Sheets/Arsenic-Trioxide-_18k_

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john
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Brought up for ease of reference together with the Part two.

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